• DandomRude@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    How can this guy be your president, US folks? It was absolutely well known.

    Even now, still no appropriate response. Instead, just more of what was also totally foreseeable: corruption and fascism.

    How can you allow this to happen?

    If you don’t act now, you will be the next dictatorship.

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      How can you allow this to happen?

      I love how people ask questions like this, like we’re gods who can snap our fingers and magically stop the fascists who outnumber us. The number of people who wanted it to happen outnumbered the number of us who didn’t want it to happen. Simple as that. Can’t even blame the electoral college.

      And those people still absolutely love him and will do anything for him and to keep him in power. The only option left after losing the election would be civil war, but even if enough people were ready to go all out and start one, we would lose that war because they have the government and its resources, including the military. That’s the problem with democracy, you see–majority rules and if the majority decides they don’t want a democracy any more, then it’s over.

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        That’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is that there won’t be a next election if you don’t fight back.

        Why do you think ICE needs a budget of 100 billion? Are you seriously so naive as to believe that it’s about illegal immigrants?

        Edit: This is not a call to violence, but merely a warning to finally wake up. I don’t think you can still rely on your legal system as it is obvious broken beyond repair, but I do think it is possible to remove this despot by civil means. My suggestion: a general strike across all industries – if there’s one thing that scares your rulers, it’s loss of profit.

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          Dude, you are getting angry at the wrong person, and also preaching to the choir. 99% of people on this site agree with your point. So why are you yelling at me over an innocuous comment?

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            I think that was an actual question and invitation to dialogue, and your first response is to disavow? You mistake genuine concern for anger?

            Why?

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              OP called me naive and implied that I think this is actually about immigration. How is that a genuine question? Insulting someone’s intelligence right off the bat isn’t asking for genuine dialog.

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      Hate is a hell of a drug. The religious people (primarily Christians) in our country are particularly susceptible to it. Trump pretends to be religious, and his cruelty is embraced by these types.

      It’s just layers of indoctrination, basically. It’s not the majority of Americans, it’s around a third, but they vote in very high percentages, and the actual majority of Americans don’t vote.

      So, we have this loud, delusional group with the most power right now purely because the majority of Americans don’t care to vote.

      pew research graphs showing the alarming non-voter demographic in the US in 2024

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      How can this guy be your president, US folks? It was absolutely well known.

      Because millions of people didn’t care

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      It seems like we didn’t vote for this guy and he cheated his way to winning the election. He made suspicious comments about Elon Musk and how he helped with the election, mentioning something about how he’s really good with that technology. Which Musk also mentioned, claiming that Trump would never have been elected without him.

      Then there’s an active lawsuit going on where several counties in New York state found that absolutely no one voted for Kamala Harris in their location during the election, despite having large groups of Democrat residents. Their electronic voting machines received patches right before voting started, which is highly suspicious. That’s being investigated right now.

      It appears that the election was likely stolen and we have a president who was never elected. This is how fascist takeovers start, and unless people organize against the government, they’re just going to keep enabling this downfall of our country.

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      I’m not USian, but from what analysts worth their salt would say, it is combination of-- but not limited to-- intentional dumbification of Americans, the opposition not really being opposition, the US Supreme Court legalising bribery, the atomisation and polarisation of American communities, de-industrialisation, growing wealth inequality and general corruption. These contributed to the growth of frustration and populism among the voters to vote for anyone who is “not establishment”. Someone who “tells it like it is” unlike most politicians who always do politician speak. In the minds of many Americans, Trump may be a grifter and a pervert, but they see him as genuine. If the democracy is a sham after all, might as well pull down the mask and show tje country for what it truly is. That’s why people say Trump is a symptom, not the cause. The same symptom is happening across the world which is why we’re getting the same far right populism.

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        Yeah it was pretty much inevitable, sooner or later. The same is true for several other countries whose citizens are here on Lemmy laughing at us or chastizing us about it, not realizing that the same thing is coming for them, too.

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    “Voice Over: There must be more to life than having everything,” the note began.

    Donald: Yes, there is, but I won’t tell you what it is.

    Jeffrey: Nor will I, since I also know what it is.

    Donald: We have certain things in common, Jeffrey.

    Jeffrey: Yes, we do, come to think of it.

    Donald: Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?

    Jeffrey: As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.

    Trump: A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.

    If I didn’t know any other context, I’d say these two were exploring each others brown starfish.

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    Okay seriously is it Elon? Why are they finally fucking attacking this again when we have KNOWN for two decades at least. Why is this news again? Who is pushing this? I want to know WHY it’s suddenly sacrifice trump time. I have no love for him but this doesn’t just happen.

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      Because he didn’t release the files, said they didn’t exist, and then said they were created by the democrats. It’s the Streisand effect. So people are applying pressure by finding what they can without him

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        Ah, the old blood. That makes sense. If there’s one thing I’ve learned over the last 10 years it’s that it doesn’t matter if we have the information and evidence. It matters if the news is willing to play your story and spin it for you

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          So which network billionaires does he rub elbows with?

          You’re absolutely right. Truth doesn’t matter, networks push certain stories and remove other stories.

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    The question was whether he had an age limit… a maximum age he would consider as a cutoff.

    Trump went to the opposite extreme.

    Makes you think.

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    From 2006:

    ROBIN QUIVERS: Yeah, do you have an age limit or would you–

    FUTURE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: If I- No, no, I have no age–. I mean, I have an age li–.

    ROBIN QUIVERS: The upper bracket–.

    FUTURE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I don’t want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds.

    He started to say he had no age limit, then seemingly corrected himself by deflecting onto Former Congressman Mark Foley, who sent sexually explicit instant messages to 16 and 17 year old boys. Whether he was more deterred by the ages themselves or the fact that it was a scandal is an exercise left to the reader.

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    FUTURE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I don’t want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds.

    Ok, so thirteen and above. Now we know.

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    FUTURE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I don’t want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds.

    Was that Mark Foley? IIRC, he was caught with (male) Congressional Pages, who are older than 12. But the key thing about Foley was that he was caught. So I read this as “I don’t want to get caught with someone underage”…

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      You forget that Trump is a pathological liar. Never tell the truth when a lie will do.

      Trump was almost certainly aware that the congressional pages were around 16 or 17 years old. But Trump wanted to say something nasty to tear someone else down, and that’s exactly what he did. It’s exactly what he always does.

      So what Trump was really saying was, “don’t look at me! Look at that other “perv”! I’m definitely not a perv! “