cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/33487836

By MEE staff
Published date: 21 July 2025 21:11 BST

The New York lawmaker voted against an amendment by Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene last week that sought to block $500m in Congress’ annual defence spending bill for Israel’s Iron Dome programme.

Fellow Democrats Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar [as well as Democrats Al Green of Texas, Summer Lee of Pennsylvania and Republican Thomas Massie of Kentucky - PL] had supported Taylor Greene’s amendment, which eventually lost in a 422-6 vote.

In a post on X on Saturday, Ocasio-Cortez claimed that Greene’s amendment did “nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza”.

  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    21 days ago

    AOC’s post:

    Marjorie Taylor Greene’s amendment does nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza. Of course I voted against it.

    What it does do is cut off defensive Iron Dome capacities while allowing the actual bombs killing Palestinians to continue.

    I have long stated that I do not believe that adding to the death count of innocent victims to this war is constructive to its end. That is a simple and clear difference of opinion that has long been established.

    I remain focused on cutting the flow of US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide in Gaza.

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      21 days ago

      AOC is a beautifully blooming neoliberal, and it’s time for all to stop worshipping her. She had proven over and over again that she’ll vote for neo-liberal interests above all and justify it by wrapping it with a bow of humanity.

      Think of all the American lives that could be saved with that money before you justify spending on the iron dome to protect foreigners from the consequences of committing Genocide. AOC is not your friend.

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        20 days ago

        Do you even know how to read? Read her actual response. This amendment does NOTHING to stop aid to Israel.

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        21 days ago

        She’s not a neo liberal… Maybe she’ll become a liberal at worst

        I believe she’s a good person, I believe she’s a true blue progressive…I just think she has terrible political instincts. It seems like she’s making backroom deals that don’t benefit her positions or even herself

        I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed. And I don’t think Bernie has been a good influence

        We need fighters, and it’s been too long since she actually fought. I still think she’ll be part of the solution, but she’s not panning out into what I hoped she’d be

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          21 days ago

          I believe she’s a good person, I believe she’s a true blue progressive

          Everything you typed after this implies the opposite. It’s painful to accept that someone you admired might no longer be who you thought they were. But the sooner you let go of that attachment, the clearer things become. She is not your friend. You do not join the Democratic Party to fight it from within. You join it to become part of its machinery.

          Look at her record and measure it against her rhetoric. She voted to fund the Iron Dome in 2021 and then cried on the House floor. That was not courage. That was shame. She has now voted against cutting funding to Israel’s military while bombs are falling on Gaza. She condemns genocide and then votes to fund it. That is not strategy. That is betrayal.

          She avoids confrontation with her party even when that party is enabling mass death. She speaks of justice, then backs imperial budgets. She delays, reframes, and pacifies while Palestinians are being erased. Her presence is soothing for liberals and neutralizing for movements. She functions as a release valve. She gives you a reason to believe in a system that should be dismantled.

          You said she might be making backroom deals that do not benefit her or her ideals. That is what co-optation looks like. It does not require corruption. It only requires surrender. It happens when staying in the room becomes more important than changing what the room represents.

          It is not that she is inactive. It is that she actively helps preserve a violent status quo. That makes her dangerous in a different way. Not because she is cruel, but because she is trusted.

          Being disappointed is honest. But if you continue to hold onto the belief that she is still part of the solution, you will miss what she has already become. She is no longer a fighter. She is now a barrier.

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    21 days ago

    But no blood on the doors or Schumer or Jefferies.

    This whole shitshow is just the octillionth example of the left biting its own dick off instead of attacking the fascists stomping on it.

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    21 days ago

    Cutting off defense seems like a dumb move and I agree with AOC on this. We should cease all offensive weaponry sales as that’s clearly being used in a god damn genocide.

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      Cutting defense means they would have to shift the budget to defense.

      Moreover you’re helping the aggressor protect itself against finding out the consequences of their own action.

      Fuck that noise.

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        Moreover you’re helping the aggressor protect itself against finding out the consequences of their own action.

        You literally sound like the pro-genocide people with that statement.

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          You understand that the Iron Dome is why Israel felt it had the impunity to strike Iran and continued to act belligerent in the region right?

          Furthermore withholding all Munitions to a state facilitating genocide is the bare minimum. Regardless of the intended purpose any Munition can be turned offensive.

          Finally even if Israel didn’t have the resupply for the Iron Dome and had to supply their own budget it would not guarantee a genocide against the Israeli people. Saying anything of the such is stupid and undermines the control of the United States has in that area with its massive aircraft carriers that carry the power of a small state with them.

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            21 days ago

            I don’t know why you’re directing all that at me. I just said they sounded the exact same as the pro-genocide arguments I’ve heard.

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                21 days ago

                Literally giving aid to Palestinians or threatening to stop funding Israel is seen as helping the aggressor protect itself from the consequences of their actions. Pretty straightforward. A lot of people see all the genocide as 100% justified.

                Hamas did some really brutal shit. That doesn’t justify murdering people.

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          Why should anyone care what a war criminal supporting person like yourself insinuates? You lost all right to have your opinion listened to when you supported that stuff. Zionists have committed war crimes and should be banned en masse from lemmy. You are no better than a nazi yourself.

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            I absolutely don’t support it. What the IDF has done is horrific.

            I’ve seen people justifying Hamas butchering people though, which is worrying.

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              21 days ago

              Do you condemn Nat Turner?

              Do you condemn the Warsaw Uprising?

              I notice you don’t answer those questions because it might make you think uncomfortable thoughts.

              Come on, if you’re so moral have the courage of your convictions. Either explain how those were different or condemn them. If not, you’re just a jackass with no moral code other than “this feels icky”

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      Why are we responsible for Israel’s defense? they have free health care and education but our checkbook is open for iron dome missiles for them ? No. Thats American taxpayer money, not theirs. If they are rich enough to bribe the entire American government, then they are rich enough to buy their own missiles.