Not at all. People’s opinions don’t mean much anyway, hell not even my own!
If you want a safe space on a public forum, then I highly recommend just making it private.
I have literally seen them delete someone’s comment because they ASSUMED the commenter was a man, when they were in the process of transitioning to a women. This led to the person being very confused, and probably feeling like the community wasn’t welcoming to trans people. Being so heavy handed with the way they mod their safe space has probably alienated more people than they welcomed.
I just think it’s a crappy way to handle things, whether it be men or women. If I ever stumble into a mens only community that is as bad as WomensStuff, I will be sure to say the same thing.
I understand the challenges of that, and the challenges of having a safe space for women (hopefully of all spectrums…), but the way they handle it now is just bad and shouldn’t be encouraged.
If I was a woman transitioning into a man, would I still be welcome? I have the experiences that some women have had, but since I am becoming a man, then does that mean I can only comment in other communities now?
It’s just not a good way to handle things, I’m sorry.
The visibility issue is a direct response to your suggestion to making it private.
I read the trans men issue as a red herring to center men’s voices. I’m not sure about that so I let it fall by the way side.
Your final paragraph just said this is a bad way to handle it. There’s no response here because it’s a valid concluding paragraph if the previous points hold water. Obviously, I don’t think they do.
Right… Because a man’s opinion is the only thing needed to stop the echo chamber.
Edit: safe spaces are not echo chambers.
Not at all. People’s opinions don’t mean much anyway, hell not even my own!
If you want a safe space on a public forum, then I highly recommend just making it private.
I have literally seen them delete someone’s comment because they ASSUMED the commenter was a man, when they were in the process of transitioning to a women. This led to the person being very confused, and probably feeling like the community wasn’t welcoming to trans people. Being so heavy handed with the way they mod their safe space has probably alienated more people than they welcomed.
I just think it’s a crappy way to handle things, whether it be men or women. If I ever stumble into a mens only community that is as bad as WomensStuff, I will be sure to say the same thing.
Have a good rest of your day!
Making it private limits visibility. Lemmy has a lot of men on it. A private women’s only space would be hard to find for the limited number of women.
I understand the challenges of that, and the challenges of having a safe space for women (hopefully of all spectrums…), but the way they handle it now is just bad and shouldn’t be encouraged.
If I was a woman transitioning into a man, would I still be welcome? I have the experiences that some women have had, but since I am becoming a man, then does that mean I can only comment in other communities now?
It’s just not a good way to handle things, I’m sorry.
You don’t address the visibility issue. Disappearing is not the solution.
And you aren’t addressing anything I’ve said either, so I think we’ve come to a stalemate.
Have a good rest of your day!
The visibility issue is a direct response to your suggestion to making it private.
I read the trans men issue as a red herring to center men’s voices. I’m not sure about that so I let it fall by the way side.
Your final paragraph just said this is a bad way to handle it. There’s no response here because it’s a valid concluding paragraph if the previous points hold water. Obviously, I don’t think they do.
Good lord. This is exactly the type of shit I’m making a point about….
Me bringing up a VALID view point of a woman who is in the process of transitioning to a man, is centering a man’s voice…?
That is certainly a take….
Like I said, I ignored it because I didn’t know. I thought it better to be silent than wrong.
So I addressed the only other point you made.
where did they say a man’s opinion would remove the echo chamber?
when they said it’s an echo chamber based on the fact that men are discouraged from posting.
no they just said “yay an echo chamber” where does it say something about men? maybe I’m blind
ok what do you think the “echo chamber” content refers to?
Subtext is a difficult concept.
you head cannoned your own subtext doofus. all they said was “yay echo chambers”
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Without subtext the only way to read this comment is they are celebrating echo chambers. They aren’t. Subtext is hard.
like I said you added your own head cannoned subtext
And like I said
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lol ok you’re annoying AF. blocked
You’re a gem.