• Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Yes Scotland has a population of approx 5.5M so in order to have a higher percentage of the population protesting they’d need to have 80K people take to the streets just like Greenland would need 760 people to outperform the states.

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      16 days ago

      yes, per capita. do you know why protests aren’t measured by per capita, right?

      please tell me you understand why per capita is a bad metric to distinguish protests…

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        16 days ago

        But that perspective matters a whole f** lot. Talking about a percentual mobilisation of people is quite relevant, you know, even if it’s harder to organise a protest in a territory as vast as USA.

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          16 days ago

          stop being an idiot.

          per capita matters when you’re dealing with inequalities or averages across a nation.

          protests are measured by participants or volume. this is because the whole point of a protest is to convey a message by display of force.

          you think someone will look at a protest and go, “looks like 1% of the population of the nation is here.”

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            16 days ago

            You stop being a fucking moron. Of course it’s a valid measure of public opinion and engagement. The point is to display force relative to the size of the entity being protested. Take the Serbian or Georgian protests. A whole lot more impressive. If you can’t see that no one can help you.

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              16 days ago

              just an update for you since it’s so important that you’re goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I’ll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.

              Scotland

              • population 5,500,000
              • trump golf protest 1000
              • per capita 0.00018

              in comparison to the US.

              • population 347,411,739
              • no kings 5,000,000
              • per capita 0.014

              but hey, it’s not a competition.

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                15 days ago

                When did I say otherwise? Of course you’re not gonna get mass protests in Scotland because a corrupted American rapist goes there surroundes by cops.

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              16 days ago

              what’s more impressive for a protest:

              1. 100% of a national population
              2. 5 million from a national population

              Jesus the next thing you’re going to tell me is that a pound of feathers is less than a pound of gold.

          • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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            16 days ago

            Yeah people within a country will talk raw numbers, but it’s a fucking stupid way to compare mobilisation between countries. 100000 in the Scottish media looks a lot more impressive than 5m on an American news station. At this point I’m not sure wether your trolling or huffing solvents.

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              16 days ago

              so now we’re talking about volume over mobilization.

              so 5 million over 2100 cities isn’t impressive enough?

              keep moving those goal posts troll.

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                15 days ago

                5 million over 2100 cities holding signs and chanting on a Saturday isn’t impressive at all.

                No Kings was a farce.

      • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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        16 days ago

        Protests are measured in raw numbers because if you said 1.4% of the population of the usa gave enough of a fuck to turn up, it would show just how little you people care about What’s happening in your country. And if you compare that to the protests Georgians had about the Russification of their government, they had raw numbers of around 169000 at the low end, but that’s over 4% of their population. So yeah if you want your passive population to seem politically engaged, by all means use the raw numbers, but nobody’s impressed when the survival of your country is on the line and only 1.4% can be bothered showing up.

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          just an update for you since it’s so important that you’re goal posts are moved. multiple sources claim hundreds of protestors showed up in Edinburgh. I’ll (generously) top it out at 1000 protestors nationwide.

          Scotland

          • population 5,500,000
          • trump golf protest 1000
          • per capita 0.00018

          in comparison to the US.

          • population 347,411,739
          • no kings 5,000,000
          • per capita 0.014

          but hey, it’s not a competition.

          • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
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            15 days ago

            You realise that Donald kiddie fiddler Trump isn’t the president of Scotland right? He’s objectively your fucking problem. You ought to be grateful for any foreign countries who want to help out. I never said there were proportionally more people protesting in Scotland.

            If you look back at the comments, I’ve only ever argued with your position that any country that doesn’t field 5M protesters isn’t outperforming the states. Which, by the way, is still some grade A stupidity. I’ve no fucking idea how many people showed up, but as previously mentioned trump is definitely more of a problem for the USA than anyone else so I genuinely wouldn’t expect that many to show up.

            However if the first minister of Scotland did even half the shit trump’s done, Edinburgh would fucking burn with the riots.

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              I’m grateful for any help protesting the orange shitler but I won’t stand by when some scab of a human shits all over Americans efforts because they want to feel superior.

              I also can’t stomach pathetic people who continue to move goal posts when they have lied their way into a corner.

              Protests are measured in raw numbers because if you said 1.4% of the population of the usa gave enough of a fuck to turn up, it would show just how little you people care about What’s happening in your country. And if you compare that to the protests Georgians had about the Russification of their government, they had raw numbers of around 169000 at the low end, but that’s over 4% of their population. So yeah if you want your passive population to seem politically engaged, by all means use the raw numbers, but nobody’s impressed when the survival of your country is on the line and only 1.4% can be bothered showing up.

              that was you dipshit. YOU were literally arguing that per capita makes more sense when it comes to comparing protest turnout. you may not understand that’s what you were arguing, but it’s right fucking there. then you have the fucking audacity to try to gaslight me into believing you didn’t mean that? fuck you dude.

              on top of that, my whole point was the original comment purposely dunked on Americans for not doing enough. so when I compared apples to apples you and trolls like you came out to argue about per capita.

              well there you have it bitch, per capita in all its mother fucking glory.

              if you want to be mad at anybody be mad at ThePantser@sh.itjust.works for turning this into a pissing contest.

              thank god I brought my umbrella because you seem to be drenched.