Some notes based on frequent comments:
- Not my petition, I’m just sharing it.
- I don’t live in the USA.
- You can sign a petition and call them to complain. The numbers are downthread.
Lol
The irony. Also, who/what does the money go to?
Change.org is a private, for-profit, venture-backed company. Your money goes to their executives.
Ah, amazing. Petitions on change.org also don’t have any legal basis, so corpos can just ignore them. ECIs have a lot more power.
Don’t waste your time with change.org. Call your CC company directly and complain. Not email. Call.
No, you need to do all three.
Change.org and email can be ignored automatically. Calling them costs them call center money.
Except the change.org gets media attention. Proven by the fact that we’re talking in this thread right now. Emails must be at least a little effective considering that’s one of the methods that Collective Shout group used to put pressure on these companies in the first place. Along with public displays of course which goes back to the petition point. So again, I say again you should do all three.
If you really want to sign the petition, fine. Just call them before doing that.
Well yes, that’s what I’m advocating, doing all of them. Though frankly I’d say write your email and sign the petition while you’re on hold, probably more efficient that way.
One-tap dial phone numbers:
Master card
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US + Can English
(skips card number input)
Visa
PayPal
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US English
Say “make a complaint”
Stripe (unconfirmed)
Script:
I’m calling to urge [company name] to immediately end the policy that unfairly targets the adult content industry. I’m also asking that [company name] sit down with stakeholders- specifically sex workers and adult content creators- to develop solutions that ensure equitable access to financial services, create stability, and reduce harm for sex workers.
Instead of “sex workers” wouldnt “adult content creators” be more palatable?
Maybe so! Mentioning that human rights are at stake can be more impactful, but also risks turning off potential supporters, so idk
I feel like “adult content creators” covers all genres. Games or porn.
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I think we need to level the playing field with these religious zealots. We need to counter with bold statement in a language they understand, using the same tools they use, like this crude draft:
I am a member of the New Sexually Free Worship Church (NSFW Church for short), and I am deeply disappointed by recent actions recklessly taken by payment processors to ban religious content
I believe these actions violate my freedom of religion and I urge world governments to take immediate steps to stop this outrageous attack on religious liberty
I wonder if the real reason credit card companies have been responsive to these groups is the potential for lawsuits that drag payment processors into them, which is a result of various shitty laws that have been passed to generally empower these sorts of regressive trolls to do so. If so petitions from the other side might not be as effective, because they can be sued for providing services to the wrong people but not so much for cutting off service, and there’s not much actual risk to them even if a lot of people are mad about the latter.
Name one change.org petition that accomplished anything except giving change.org a valuable email list to spam and sell.
Petition?
No, no, they should be legally enforced to do so.
Or just use Gnu Taler instead and encourage others to use it as well. We only need 3.5% of the population to use it and then it’ll become a universal option that will break Visa’s fucking business model’s back and kill Visa.
Not enough, We need to actively seek out & destroy the fascists (CS in this case). Document those individuals & prevent them from getting a job, EVER. They use children as human shields, while violating them. (They support Cuties & Germaine Greer)
