so now proton completely blocking account creation through their onion adress? I have standard protection, javascript enabled. Time to swith for those who use this service as they are ditching tor and switzerland?

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        OP said they are blocking tor users. I say the error message might just be legit and someone is spamming username existence checks through Tor.

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      Not saying it’s some sort of conspiracy theory, but it do be kinda sus. People are just quick to hate Proton over anything. It’s like bias confirmation. They seem to be justifying their hatred, or looking for reasons to do so. I mean, “leaving Switzerland”? Really?! I thought that was because Switzerland was considering a privacy-unfriendly law. That’s bad, now?

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      it should be possible to criticize a mail provider without being flooded by it’s evangelists. Especially proton, their image of privacy does not reflect reality at all

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      There’s been evidence in their github repo that they’re using LLMs to code their tools now.

      It’s making me reconsider using them.

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        Theres evidence they use the very popular tool cursor that many devs and large companies use.

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          LLM is avoided by many experienced developers and competent medium and small companies.

          Tools like cursor are sometimes ok for small things like people learning, or to generate boilerplate.

          But it is seen by some as a warning flag when it’s in source code for larger projects

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            This comment is meaningless.

            What red flags? Why is it a red flag is an be experienced developer used cursor on a larger project? Put it into words.

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              It’s very time consuming to detect and correct the small mistakes that LLMs make. Beyond one or two lines of code, it becomes much more time consuming to correct the multitude of subtle mistakes vs coding it myself. I use code completion that comes with my IDE, but that is programmatic completion, not LLM, and is much, much more accurate and in smaller chunks that are easy to verify at a glance. I’ve never known any experienced developers who have had a different experience. LLMs can be good for getting a general idea of how to code something in a new language or framework I’ve never touched before and more to help find actual examples rather than use the code directly in the IDE, but if I were to use LLM code directly that would be in a test project, never, ever in production code. I would never write production code in a language I’ve never used before with or without an LLM’s “help”.

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              When adding code this way, one needs to look it over and read to fix bugs or things that are not quite correct; stats show experienced developers often are faster not using this approach because debugging existing code takes longer than writing it fresh.

              The speed is not the issue.

              What matters is sometimes subtle bugs are introduced that require several people to catch. If at all. These issues might be unique to the Llm.

              Having large sections of generated code offers the possibility of hard to find problems.

              Some codes are more sensitive to such issues.

              The details of how the code was added, and what it does, may render this issue harmless or very much a problem to be avoided.

              This is why it’s a flag and not a condemnation

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        I think you don’t know what “evidence” means. It’s barely a clue.

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          It’s a single data data point, nothing more, nothing less. But that single data point is evidence of using LLMs in their code generation.

          Time will tell if this is a molehill or a mountain. When it comes to data privacy, given that it just takes one mistake and my data can be compromised, I’m going to be picky about who I park my data with.

          I’m not necessarily immediately looking to jump ship, but I consider it a red flag that they’re using developer tools centered around using AI to generate code.