I use a dry vape for weed, and shit like this is why I hate using the word vape to describe it.
To me, in my head at least, the word “vape” refers to (or connotes with) that chemical juice that comes in nicotine and non-nicotine varieties. I haven’t really followed it since it seems to be mostly a rebellious teen thing to me and I don’t know any teens anymore. But a former roommate of mine used it to cut down on his smoking (don’t talk to him often, so I don’t know if it ended up working).
Anyway, I don’t know the current science of it, but to me that stuff is just cancer juice. At the very least, it smells a million percent better than cigs, but it just seems like the worst liquid ever, and having to use the same tainted word feelsbadman.
The juice itself is… of moderate known negative impact. The nicotine itself isn’t actually very bad for you. Some of the flavoring though is pretty questionable. Compared to combustion it is likely still quite a bit less negative for your health in most cases.
The exception is the hardware, it seems quite likely there is mass lead and other heavy metal poisoning happening due to poor quality metal and ceramic components in vape hardware. I work in a related industry, and this conversation is being had internally by the big players who are afraid of potential class action lawsuits coming down the pipeline while pure export companies from China and elsewhere sell bulk wholesale of low quality hardware. Vapor composition certifications are coming soon, but the damage may well be done for a generation.
I’ve assumed the absolute worst of disposable ones since day zero. I will go back closer to neutral if I hear something convincing, but until then I think of them as literal poison.
My previous comment was thinking more about whatever the non disposable ones are called. But since as far as I know the juices are similar and since nobody seems to know much about them, I assume the absolute worst until hearing something really good indicating otherwise. Personally, I will always treat them as literally drinking cancer.
I mean I still judge smokers, and thereby vapers, but at the very least the vapers smell better. I had one roommate take it up to stop regular smoking (he never did it in our seemingly near) the house, and wasn’t a problem, but another roommate who didn’t smoke found out about the non nicotine version of it and thought it was cool for a bit, testing it as breathing flavored air. They both got a couple upgrades for their doodads, and the non smoker stopped later, but I haven’t talked to the other guy in a while to know if he ever stopped nicotine completely or continues to vape.
I use a dry vape for weed, and shit like this is why I hate using the word vape to describe it.
To me, in my head at least, the word “vape” refers to (or connotes with) that chemical juice that comes in nicotine and non-nicotine varieties. I haven’t really followed it since it seems to be mostly a rebellious teen thing to me and I don’t know any teens anymore. But a former roommate of mine used it to cut down on his smoking (don’t talk to him often, so I don’t know if it ended up working).
Anyway, I don’t know the current science of it, but to me that stuff is just cancer juice. At the very least, it smells a million percent better than cigs, but it just seems like the worst liquid ever, and having to use the same tainted word feelsbadman.
The juice itself is… of moderate known negative impact. The nicotine itself isn’t actually very bad for you. Some of the flavoring though is pretty questionable. Compared to combustion it is likely still quite a bit less negative for your health in most cases.
The exception is the hardware, it seems quite likely there is mass lead and other heavy metal poisoning happening due to poor quality metal and ceramic components in vape hardware. I work in a related industry, and this conversation is being had internally by the big players who are afraid of potential class action lawsuits coming down the pipeline while pure export companies from China and elsewhere sell bulk wholesale of low quality hardware. Vapor composition certifications are coming soon, but the damage may well be done for a generation.
Damn it i didnt consider the metals or that.
Yep, it is bad bad: https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/disposable-e-cigarettes-more-toxic-traditional-cigarettes
I’ve assumed the absolute worst of disposable ones since day zero. I will go back closer to neutral if I hear something convincing, but until then I think of them as literal poison.
My previous comment was thinking more about whatever the non disposable ones are called. But since as far as I know the juices are similar and since nobody seems to know much about them, I assume the absolute worst until hearing something really good indicating otherwise. Personally, I will always treat them as literally drinking cancer.
I mean I still judge smokers, and thereby vapers, but at the very least the vapers smell better. I had one roommate take it up to stop regular smoking (he never did it in our seemingly near) the house, and wasn’t a problem, but another roommate who didn’t smoke found out about the non nicotine version of it and thought it was cool for a bit, testing it as breathing flavored air. They both got a couple upgrades for their doodads, and the non smoker stopped later, but I haven’t talked to the other guy in a while to know if he ever stopped nicotine completely or continues to vape.