People clearly realize that these algorithms are suppressing dissidents and freedom of speech. Why do they continue to subject themselves to these hacky workarounds and self-censorship?
The reality is that apps like TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, etc… have marketing teams and entire institutions practically advocating for their use across the planet. In some parts of Asia and South America, you literally cannot get by without WhatsApp in more urbanized areas, for example.
This is the result of US imperialism. They have just enough data centers and server capacity to run hundreds of Instagrams if they wanted to, unlike the Global South (excl. China).
yeah, but folks who are already bought into traditional social media aren’t making that same assessment.
why would anyone pay for streaming when you can get it all for free? i certainly don’t get it, but streaming services are wildly successful nonetheless.
@yuri
Funny, that’s the example I always use, too. I watch whatever I want, when I want, for absolutely free except the cost of a VPN and the one-time purchase of a home server, thanks to plex and bittorrent. I can’t code, I don’t know what a secure socket layer is, I can just follow directions.
And it’s depressing that people pay for these things basically because they abhor the idea of learning anything that takes a little patience.
@interdimensionalmeme
It’s not a matter of purity policing. Its a matter of hearing people repeatedly whine about censorship, and having offered to them perhaps the most censorship-resistant network in the world, only to be told “oh noes my influencers arent there and why doesnt it follow ppl for me its too much work, censorship ok.”
The reason we keep insisting on the fediverse is because it solves the problem, directly. What more can we do? @onslaught545
People clearly realize that these algorithms are suppressing dissidents and freedom of speech. Why do they continue to subject themselves to these hacky workarounds and self-censorship?
because there are no viable alternatives for large outreach.
Sounds like a job for the Fediverse…
the fediverse is microscopic and the people you want to get involved politically probably stay away from it.
The reality is that apps like TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, etc… have marketing teams and entire institutions practically advocating for their use across the planet. In some parts of Asia and South America, you literally cannot get by without WhatsApp in more urbanized areas, for example.
This is the result of US imperialism. They have just enough data centers and server capacity to run hundreds of Instagrams if they wanted to, unlike the Global South (excl. China).
@chobeat
@ms_lane
And they stay away because it’s truly harder to use than their hacky workarounds? 🙄
when the workaround is changing a word vs signing up on and learning how to use a whole new website?
yes
No, it’s changing the words for a bit, then getting IP banned, then never going back.
That one isn’t a hypothetical, it’s why I’m here :)
@yuri
Changing the word every other day in an endless game of whack-a-mole vs. signing up once on a new website?
All of us here know which is easier in the long run.
yeah, but folks who are already bought into traditional social media aren’t making that same assessment.
why would anyone pay for streaming when you can get it all for free? i certainly don’t get it, but streaming services are wildly successful nonetheless.
@yuri
Funny, that’s the example I always use, too. I watch whatever I want, when I want, for absolutely free except the cost of a VPN and the one-time purchase of a home server, thanks to plex and bittorrent. I can’t code, I don’t know what a secure socket layer is, I can just follow directions.
And it’s depressing that people pay for these things basically because they abhor the idea of learning anything that takes a little patience.
Yes! Loops exists, which is a federated tiktok app. Doesn’t have the same content or algo, but it has the infrastructure we all want.
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only influencers and advertisers need the large outreach; a huge majority of people just passively use it.
If you want your movement or important information to reach a bunch of people, you need to go to a platform that has a bunch of people.
And compromise on purity ?
No way José
All my homies
are on I R C
@interdimensionalmeme
It’s not a matter of purity policing. Its a matter of hearing people repeatedly whine about censorship, and having offered to them perhaps the most censorship-resistant network in the world, only to be told “oh noes my influencers arent there and why doesnt it follow ppl for me its too much work, censorship ok.”
The reason we keep insisting on the fediverse is because it solves the problem, directly. What more can we do?
@onslaught545
that’s still an influencer thing
passive users don’t care about suppression and censorship
as well as having no good reason for being on those platforms.
They should just train a bunch of pigeons to drop leaflets around town