So they are banning the vaccine that the “trump administration made” …… America is a third world country and I want out of it asap.
death is the most serious outcome of COVID-19, but was excluded from consideration in the analysis, which only considered hospitalization.
Seems like a fundamental flaw to me.
A healthy, well educated population which feels safe and secure is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.
They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.
They fucking developed, distributed, and administered the vaccine under Trump 1.0
Apparently Trump was a woke idiot before and is somehow smarter now… Make it make sense Republicans!
What capitalist interest is behind this decision?
The largest transfer of wealth is going to happen in the next 10 years. Western nations need to deplete and indebted the population to the wealthy. They are using Healthcare, education, and the economy to bring about this wealth capture. They can’t allow zoomers and millennials to get there hands on all the money their parents accumulate. Otherwise, their labor force will suddenly have better options.
This reads like fake news. I don’t believe they are that idiotic.
Oh fuck.
We are in the dumbest fucking timeline
Still waiting for TVA to prune us.
Tennessee Valley Authority?
Time Variance Authority, from Marvel universe.
Every possible version of it.
In 1000 years from now history books will not include the years 2016 to 2028.
Where are them Epstein Files and such?!
Being burned so they can be used as a distraction from the fascism forever
I almost hope there is another huge pandemic, it would probably be the best and easiest way of fighting the war against fascism in America.
I have been feeling the same way. I am kinda in a " I hope it all burns down. Then they will understand how stupid they are" mood about things as of late.
Its probably just anxiety but since the last one I haven’t been able to shake the feeling that another is inevitable.
I don’t mean to increase your anxiety but another one IS inevitable. Pandemics come and go, our massively interconnected world is the perfect breeding ground for them. You can see and hear real experts talking about it a few years ago to Congress. They said another massive one is likely within the next decade. A quick googling will give you articles from every major medical school. This will leave us radically unprepared, not that they care.
In absofuckinglutely horrifying recent news: https://www.npr.org/2025/08/25/nx-s1-5515487/new-world-screwworm-us-human-case
Though I think that’ll just fuck up our dairy and beef supply more than people.
I’m worried that the next pandemic is polio.
You may just have a choice:
- TB, on the rise
- Yellow fever - a real risk
- Dengue - Yep that one is gaining momentum
If there is a 2nd American Civil War, I would be alright with conservatives not having vaccines. Disease was the #1 cause of fatalities in warfare, and I would like to have fewer enemies to fight.
I dont really know much about this but I know youre probably right in the context of the world wars.
Was it Spanish flu? IDK, but poor nutrition, hygiene, and close proximity in the trenches was a huge factor.
In a present day war, it would probably be different? Still some “dug in” defences but far more ranged, airborne, and remotely controlled armaments.
When it comes to disease and medicine, the two most valuable things for preserving life, is infrastructure (shelter), and logistics. Back in WW2, troops that ended up in places far from urban hubs tended to be exposed to the elements or had to string out their supplies. As such, they tended to die from a mixture of cold, mosquitos, heat, famine, wet, and filth. Where America is concerned, it SHOULD be relatively safe for most soldiers, because there is an abundance of roads that pass by some form of shelter.
However, I suspect that the Trump Regime would have difficulty with managing logistics. It seems like that they don’t value nor understand supply chains or other fine details. The National Guard troops that were deployed to LA, for example, didn’t have bedding for resting. While those troops can tank an one-off like that, the Regime has been dismantling all sorts of things that keep people in tip-top shape. For example, the erosion of the weather service, means that soldiers will be more easily exposed to bad conditions. The destruction of food quality inspection, means that troops are more likely to have bad rations. Medical services are being rolled back, too. Trade with foreign nations is also likely to be cut off or reduced, which also means that troops could be lacking boots. (Quality boots are literal life or death for deployed troops.) All of this adds up to troops becoming vulnerable to the Four Horsemen.
It is my expectation that the Blue States would win a prolonged civil war, simply because they tend to understand the implications of policy.
While not directly related to vaccines, the latest episode of Perun goes over the economics of soldiers, including medical costs. It is a good channel if you want analysis about modern conflicts. I wouldn’t be surprised if Perun starts covering America itself in the coming decade.
The Long-Term Costs of War - The Price of Life, Economics of Casualties & Russia’s War
It is my expectation that the Blue States would win a prolonged civil war, simply because they tend to understand the implications of policy.
The sheer economics of it are on the side of the blue states; they have a net positive economic output, while red states have a net negative economic output. If they were at war, instead of the blue states propping the red up, that’s no longer sustainable
I suspect you know far more about warfare generally than myself.
I agree that the Trump administration doesn’t care for small unsexy details like logistics, however I’m certain that the US army cares a great detail about it, and has the requisite knowledge, infrastructure, and culture to get it right.
The national guard troops in LA example isn’t really indicative of what would happen in a civil war. It was a temporary issue.
Your expectation that the Blue States might win a prolonged war based on their attention to the mundane might be sensible if both sides command relatively equal air land and sea hardware. However, it seems much more likely to me that such a conflict would be fairly short lived. If one side had a majority of the armed forces line up behind them then they’re the winner before you even get started really.
I only have intermediate knowledge. Most of it comes from sources like Behind the Bastards, Lions Led by Donkeys, Perun, Civilis Historia, Ken Burn’s Civil War, Ken Burn’s Vietnam, and so forth. You will have to ask a veteran officer or historian for better information. Anyhow, I will relate what I vaguely recall.
The Trump Regime has been doing many things to erode the competence and loyalty of the federal military. For example, destroying the cultural clubs that soldiers were part of, removing medical care from LGBTQ+ members, eliminating proven minority leadership and replacing them with white dudes like Hegseth, whitewashing history like the ‘Enola Gay’ from military libraries, and so on. This also applies to three-letter agencies. In effect, the most capable soldiery of America’s military is no longer part of the federal government, which allows them to be hired by Blue States.
Also, the United States are huge. Short of decapitating the majority of Blue State leadership in one fell blow, it is unlikely for the Trump Regime to own the majority of the military. The soldiers and their leaders are much more likely to be loyal to their respective states than the concept of the United States, especially if the federal government has been mistreating them. Trump himself said that soldiers are suckers, and they will remember such acts of disrespect towards their service. Soldiers are not automated drones, they have thoughts and feelings, as many an empire has fatally discovered.
After the 1st American Civil War was declared, many people throughout the nation moved around to wherever was more ideologically suited to them. You had southerners joining the north’s military, and the reverse. If a new civil war breaks out, it is very likely that the half of the first year would be spent on shuffling around men and hardware, alongside communities deciding where they belong. It would be extremely messy, and won’t lend itself to an instant resolution of a war.
I think you are right about most of the things you are saying. But for all the bad to trickel down to the troops will take years.
I was in the Marine corps for 10 years. I can’t tell you who the generals where back then. It didn’t really matter, all the training is done by experts at much lower ranks.
So my point is, that while yes the upper leadership is bad, the acually boots on the ground soldiers still know how to fight as well as they did a few years ago. It could take years for the rot at the top to creep down through all levels.
The one time when coughing in crowded spaces would be socially acceptable and morally just.
It did a pretty good job on them the first time. Fingers crossed for COVID 2: The Defuckening
Question: since Trump was the administration in charge of those vaccines, can we sue the president for releasing an “dangerous” vaccine, “harming” Americans?
Like, you can’t have it both ways. You can’t hate the COVID vaccine and ignore that it was done under Trump’s administration. I’m so confused, my head hurts, these people are fucking stupid.
The cons are masters of doublethink.
Don’t try to make sense of it. These people don’t operate within the confines of logic, only what is convenient to their agenda in the moment.
They should ban it for Republicans only
They can stick fluorescent lights up their asses instead.
You know these fuckers will keep a supply in the works for themselves.
Class wars, disasters, make people need a savior.
That’s the whole fucking game, and the ignorant cunts keep voting for it
And they will have a good supply of horse dewormer for the sisterfuckers to “cure” themselves with.
It’s available in other countries, so rich MAGA Nazis will ALWAYS be able to get it. The rest of us, not so much.
So a million and a half deaths weren’t enough for those fuckers.
With all seriousness, no, it isn’t. They want millions of deaths.
Trump once said that Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller said that he wants America to decrease to 100 million people, who all look like him. That’s a 70% decrease in population. You have to wonder how he intends to accomplish that objective.
Now he’s Trump’s most trusted advisor. He’s like Wormtongue whispering poison into Trump’s ear.
Except Trump is jerking off while it happens.
I don’t understand this though. The majority of people who would die from this would be his supporters. Why encourage a reduction in your own support?
Its simple. Anyone who isn’t an able bodied white Christian is a tool, not a human. Tools are disposable once they have served their purpose.
You’re asking a dementia patient and the guy with brainworms
These are people with absolutely no critical thinking skills. They believe that this will work because they demand that it will work.
Remember that they are both Sociopathic Oligarchs who have everything handed to them on a silver platter, almost literally. They’ve never had to suffer the consequences of their poor behavior, so they’ve never learned their lesson in anything. They think they just manifest anything to happen by virtue of their magnificent ego, and their money, or course.
It’s true because they demand it, and pay for it.
I think… for fun?
I don’t even know anymore
I just… just wow… just… what the hell
This isn’t wrong. They love seeing powerless people frightened at the fact that they wield power that can hurt them, and what fun is power if you don’t play with it now and then?
If they ban the vaccine- this won’t be the case. Then they get to say, they told us so.
Oh that’s an intelligent policy decision
/s ♾️
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Yeah, I’m pretty sure by Make America Healthy Again they mean let all the sick, disabled, and weakened die off from lack of support.
I thought it meant all of us would be doing our workouts in jeans, because that makes so much sense.
https://www.wonkette.com/p/lets-talk-about-pete-hegseths-very
RFK Jr. works out in jeans, with a belt. Cool. Totally normal. Why wouldn’t he? There’s nothing like denim rubbing against your balls in the gym. We imagine the chafing on his inner thighs looks the way his voice sounds.
This video prompted people to ask why old BrainWorm McHeadCase works out in jeans, and he explained it on Fox News to Jesse Watters. “Well, I just started doing that a long time ago because I would go hiking in the morning and then I’d go straight to the gym, and I found it was convenient, and now I’m used to it, so I just do it.”
Nope. Incorrect. First of all, jeans may or may not even be the best attire for hiking — kind of depends on the weather and where you’re hiking — but there is nothing “convenient” about going to the gym after hiking and keeping your jeans on. All gyms have locker rooms. If Kennedy is shy about people seeing RFK Junior Junior in the locker room, he can pull down his pants in his car and put on some normal man shorts or other normal workout pants. There is obviously room in his car for this, as he is always lugging dead animal in the backseat.
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Agree. Let Darwin win! I’ll go back to wearing a mask.
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I swear, it’s not for health! I’m just kidnapping Mexicans!
Unironically, that answer would land you a job on ICE or even in the administration.
Just wear a kkk mask over it and you’ll be fine!
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Yes, but the other masks
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Unless you are wearing a full bunny suit, there are still plenty of membranes and fun bits that viruses can get into. I still mask up when I go shopping or whatever, but I also acknowledge that I am fucked either way on a plane and so forth.
Masking is at its most effective when the people who are actually sick wear them. It blocks a large percentage of the greatest source of germs (mouth and nose) passively.
Also: As fun as it is to… use eugenics to tell the white supremacists off, it generally won’t be the chuds who suffer the most. It will be the immunocompromised and those on various medications that otherwise wreak havoc with their bodies.
Iirc, glasses help reduce infections, too.
Back in 2020 I’d wear my p99 respirator and goggles at the grocery store, then a full strip into the washer and shower as soon as I came home.
Now I’m more relaxed: n95 or kn94 plus standard prescription glasses, washing hands up to the elbow (makes me feel like I’m on MASH). I still strip as soon as I get home, but not because of COVID.
I’ve gotten relaxed at work over the summer because there were minimal people in the library. I’m going to go back to full masking outside my office now that the students are back, especially since I don’t have a new flu or COVID vaccine available to me.
Glasses help in the sense that they protect your eyes from direct splatter. They do not help once germs are aerosolized and being recirculated constantly.
But yeah, my basic model is more or less a kn95 (that I always should replace more often than I do) to cover my face in stores or whatever where I am not expected to be standing in a crowd for hours on end or sitting down to eat. I keep some with me on travel days but don’t bother to wear it unless I myself feel sick because I am going to inevitably need to eat or drink something or I am in a metal box where all the air is being recirculated constantly.
But yeah… I at least know that I am most likely not susceptible to long COVID since I literally caught COVID when it was all kicking off back in 2020 and have gotten it again a few times at varying levels of vaccinated/boostered (last summer was definitely bad but nowhere near as bad as being patient 3 or 4 was). Still gonna mask up but I “know” I’ll be fine and am weirdly more worried about the flu.
But… a lot of people are going to die.
a lot of people are going to die.
Yep. It makes me feel helpless and I hate it.
Side story:
I had the sweetest young store clerk at the grocery checkout. We’d already chitchatted about something, so it wasn’t awkward when he shyly asked if I was sick, if that was why I masked.
I told him “no, I’m fine, but my roommate’s immune system is weak AF. Oh, and my dad died of COVID and I’m still a bit sore there.” and he got big eyes and gave his condolences.
I’d guess he was 14 when my dad died (Jan 2021), when a lot of people’s dads died. That’s a quarter of a lifetime ago for him. It’s been an age. /feeling old and nostalgic
Could I ask if you’ve you tried any other respirator masks than those KN95s? It kinda sounds as though you don’t love their fit or durability or the experience of wearing them. There’s a lot of variety to fit folks’ faces better and more comfortably, especially if you can get down with head straps instead of ear loops. This accessory exists to let you use a straw while masked, too: https://sipmask.com/
It would be a shame to lose vacationing days or have an unexpected health scare if you’re already putting some masking effort in, y’know?
I’m pretty sure they’re working on making that illegal, too.
Gotta crop off the old timers.
How do you categorize a Nazi that is fine with all types of people that give him money?
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Some pig.
Well, orange turd is getting rid of migrants, but as we know, many Americans are not white. So the guy is trying to end the covid vaccine to remove old and weak people which is not a racist move.
Pig is OK I guess.
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No Nazi would ever collaborate with Jews no matter what.
I feel like that’s painting with a little too broad of a brush. You can find more than a few instances of Nazis working with Jews to some extent, there’s certain instances with the Jewish councils and police that oversaw the ghettos that come to mind for example.
If it helped them further the goals, some Nazis weren’t totally opposed to working with jews, doesn’t mean they weren’t planning on sending them to the camps eventually, but if they could find a use for them, they would sometimes keep them around, maybe even throw them a bone here or there to keep them compliant.
The Nazis literally did work with Jews early on, otherwise, how did the Jews for Hitler even exist as a thing?
So that’s why zombie apocalypse in every Hollywood movie happens in the USA.
