• suigenerix@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    somewhat

    Yes. Only in the EU and only since 2024 when Apple was forced to do it by new laws. It’s reasonable to assume Google would be subject to the same laws.

    If you live outside if the EU, it’s “no sideload for you!” There are computer programs that can do sideloading to iPhones, but they have limitations, like having to refresh the sideloaded apps every seven days.

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      13 hours ago

      Wholly incorrect. You’re allowed to sideload up to 3 apps (or 10 appIDs, whichever comes first) without being a developer, and that arbitrary restriction is removed if you pay for a dev license, regardless of which part of the world you’re in.

      In the EU you’re allowed to install third party app stores (still have to be notarized by Apple) which isn’t sideloading

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        11 hours ago

        The limitations depend on which program you’re using - there’s more than one - which is why I only gave a simple example. And if you have to pay for a function that is otherwise free to many others, that’s a limitation.

        Side loading is installing an app from anywhere but the official store. So by definition “third party” is side loading. Whether it’s another store or authorised is irrelevant.

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          The limitations depend on which program you’re using - there’s more than one - which is why I only gave a simple example.

          No it doesn’t. It’s in all the documentation, official and otherwise

          Side loading is installing an app from anywhere but the official store. So by definition “third party” is side loading. Whether it’s another store or authorised is irrelevant.

          You can’t just make up a definition, believe it, and then share it like it’s true. We’re going by the legal definition as that’s the only one that matters.

          Apple only allows up to 3 apps or 10 appIDs to be sideloaded, wherever you are in the world. Period.

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            Youre not getting it. The developers of the tools can and do impose their own additional limitations. They’re still limitations of the programs which is what we were taking about.

            And it doesn’t matter what limitations Apple imposes in its walled garden, their phones can still be jail broken and side loaded in the more traditional way.

            The concept of sideloading is a general term that applies to multiple platforms, not something Apple owns or gets to dictate. No one is making up anything here.

            https://www.twingate.com/blog/glossary/side-loading

            Sideloading is the process of installing applications on a device from sources other than the official app stores.

            https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sideload

            the practice of putting software on a computer or mobile phone, without using the official way of buying the software

            https://zimperium.com/glossary/sideloading

            Sideloading is the practice of installing mobile apps on a device that are not from the official app stores

            Etc.

            If your argument requires cherry picking, ignoring key points, and baseless ad homenims, it’s not a good point.

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              4 hours ago

              I said Apple allows sideloading, you tried to correct me, and then changed your argument when you realized you were wrong. It’s just you not getting it.

              Your “tools” that bypass the limitations set by apple wouldn’t even be relevant if they were real since you’re arguing with the factual statement that Apple allows you to sideload your apps, regardless of where you are in the world.

              P.S. Even your links prove that you’re wrong about sideloading. Unless you’re now trying to argue there’s nothing official about governmentally mandated Apple-certified App Stores, in which case… just walk