• Canaconda@lemmy.ca
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      Dr Seán Roberts, who researches gaming at Cardiff University, said: “When I ask people if they play video games, women often say no. But if you ask about playing games on a mobile, many of them will suddenly say yes. It’s like they have an idea of what a real gamer is in their heads, and they feel like they don’t meet that ideal.”

      TBF I don’t really consider myself a gamer anymore… even though I clock a few hours a week on the playstation. But like I used to play competitive FPS/MOBA/RTS 10+ hours a week.

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        So they aren’t actually getting excluded from games they just dont view themselves as gamers probaby because that label is cringe. I wouldn’t consider someone who casually plays mobile games to be a gamer either. Gamer isnt just anyone who play a games, it describes someone who embeds themselves in gaming communities and culture and engages gaming as a hobby. Same as going for a walk doesn’t make you a hiker.

        I play pc games often and wouldnt consider myself a gamer.

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          There’s plenty of mobile games you can sink thousand of hours in to.

          Would you consider someone who has played Tetris for 10,000 hours a gamer?

          Why would Candy Crush be different?

          Genshin? There’s plenty of literal gamer communities for the gacha games.

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            There is no difference between sinking 10k hours into tetris, candy crush or csgo. I’d consider all to be gamers. But sinking 10k hours isnt casual. Someone who plays candy crush every day and is active in candy crush communities would be a gamer. But someone who has candy crush on their phone and plays every now and then for short periods and doesnt engage in anything else related to candy crush or gaming i would not consider to be a gamer.

            If someone wants to argue that the casual candy crush player is a gamer then I’ll let them have it and will need to make a new label because at that point its watered down beyond use. Gamer as a label is pretty cringe anyway so I doubt many are actually calling themself that.

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        How can you call yourself competitive when you didn’t even clock 40+ hours a week? Competitive gaming isn’t just a hobby, it’s a way of life… Poser.

        //This comment was brought to you by Raid: Shadow Legends! Play now!!!//

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          lmao.

          40+??? That’s scrub level commitment. Get gud and you’ll be on the leaderboards playing 10+ a week. /s

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        … feel like they don’t meet that ideal.

        Well, there’s your problem, idealizing the traditional “gamer” persona. I play computer games every day, for a long time, and I also don’t feel like a “gamer,” because I don’t want to be associated with people I would consider “gamers.”

        That might be a side effect of my not wanting to be associated with anyone, but there you have it.

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          Goood, I can feel your Gamer anger. Beneath the skin we are already one. Even now the evil seed of the Gamer germinates within you. strike me down and your journey to the dark side will be complete.

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      How the fuck are they getting shamed and excluded in mobile games?

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        Probably by the common mindset that mobile games don’t really count for gaming clout.

        If i compare what crap games i’ve played on my PC sometimes to mobile games, i feel that such boundaries are pretty arbitrary. There are some mobile games that can keep up with PC gaming too - Shattered Pixel Dungeon and Hoplite come to mind.

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          I feel like Puzzle Quest and Gyromancer are “real” games, but somehow Bejeweled and Candy Crush are silly things for little girls and bored housewives. Hell, I think Progress Quest would be considered more legitimate to the kinds of people with this mindset, and that’s not even a game.

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        Self-inflicted wound.

        She plays Candy Crush and feels that calling herself a “gamer” for it amounts to stolen valor.

        Maybe she’s right, maybe she isn’t. I’m a woodworker, and I’d built several bookshelves, tables, shop fixtures and cutting boards before I felt comfortable wearing the rank. I would insist I was an amateur or a beginner. It was my little porch table that is made with genuine mortise and tenons that I felt I’d earned it.

        And that’s without the gender politics of it. Here I’m a man doing traditionally masculine things. I’m not a man taking up knitting or a woman taking up gaming.

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      just looking at it as a classification of genres, they (men & women) rightly feel shame and exclusion because mobile gaming is to gaming as connect4 is to table top gaming.

      -as decreed from the Assistant to the High Stellarch of the PC Master Race 69th Group, Section 420.