She was a grown ass woman dude. This whole gen-z infantilization of 20 something year olds is ridiculous.
Like do you seriously not understand that women also find men attractive? /s
If she came out and said it was non consensual than colour me incorrect. Otherwise you’re just being a prude like the rest of society that did the actual harm in this situation.
And you call people who call out DRASTIC POWER DYNAMICS as prudes. Dude. Do you remember being 20-22? You know she JUST got the right to drink, right? Even if there was a personal interest in Bill Clinton sexually, the dynamic makes any sexual contact inappropriate while he’s her boss. Don’t tell me you think all those stories of 20-something secretaries sleeping with their boss were all consensual love affairs?
Consent in an imbalanced power dynamic is not always recognized as consent.
Sure, the girls that Louis CK jerked off in front of didn’t scream and run out of the room, but they WERE placed in an inappropriate situation with someone who held the keys to their career. And what did we as a society do? We lambasted him for being weird and not understanding that dynamic, and his career has yet to really recover. He didn’t rape anybody, no, but he sure did abuse his power over those people. Are these similar situations, in your opinion?
The women with Louis CK said it was not consensual. Monica said she didn’t understand how inappropriate it was, but it was consensual. That is the difference here.
And what did we as a society do? We lambasted him for being weird and not understanding that dynamic, and his career has yet to really recover.
To the benefit of absolutely fucking nobody; especially Monica.
Like not only did you guys embarrass yourself on the national stage, give fuel to the right wing media apparatus, subject Monica to a life of infamy, undermine the progress of your own administration; you guys accomplished fuck all for real victims of sexual violence … or else why would you be bringing up Louis CK?
It’s suspicious when someone has strong opinions about consent laws. But not as suspicious as someone who’d white-knight fucking Bill Clinton because, wait for it, their concern for young adults being treated with respect.
That math doesn’t add up friend. Who do you think your fooling?
lmao you sound like every time a 22 year old ever had sexual relations with a 49 year old you lost a neuron. And I don’t feel bad for calling you out as stupid cuz you are grasping way harder to paint me as a predator.
Not every power imbalance is coercive, but the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TALKING TO A 21 YEAR OLD STAFFER IS
In case you didn’t consider that one
Gross, dude
She was a grown ass woman dude. This whole gen-z infantilization of 20 something year olds is ridiculous.
Like do you seriously not understand that women also find men attractive? /s
If she came out and said it was non consensual than colour me incorrect. Otherwise you’re just being a prude like the rest of society that did the actual harm in this situation.
I love that you think it’s a generational thing.
And you call people who call out DRASTIC POWER DYNAMICS as prudes. Dude. Do you remember being 20-22? You know she JUST got the right to drink, right? Even if there was a personal interest in Bill Clinton sexually, the dynamic makes any sexual contact inappropriate while he’s her boss. Don’t tell me you think all those stories of 20-something secretaries sleeping with their boss were all consensual love affairs?
How do you not realize that your exact attitude is what the GOP exploited at the expense of Monica?
If y’all grew the fuck up she’d have zipped his pants and gone on to have a normal career.
People have sex. It’s a thing we do. If everyone involved is a consenting adult than you don’t get a say in it.
Consent in an imbalanced power dynamic is not always recognized as consent.
Sure, the girls that Louis CK jerked off in front of didn’t scream and run out of the room, but they WERE placed in an inappropriate situation with someone who held the keys to their career. And what did we as a society do? We lambasted him for being weird and not understanding that dynamic, and his career has yet to really recover. He didn’t rape anybody, no, but he sure did abuse his power over those people. Are these similar situations, in your opinion?
The women with Louis CK said it was not consensual. Monica said she didn’t understand how inappropriate it was, but it was consensual. That is the difference here.
To the benefit of absolutely fucking nobody; especially Monica.
Like not only did you guys embarrass yourself on the national stage, give fuel to the right wing media apparatus, subject Monica to a life of infamy, undermine the progress of your own administration; you guys accomplished fuck all for real victims of sexual violence … or else why would you be bringing up Louis CK?
It’s suspicious when someone has strong opinions about consent laws. But not as suspicious as someone who’d white-knight fucking Bill Clinton because, wait for it, their concern for young adults being treated with respect.
That math doesn’t add up friend. Who do you think your fooling?
lmao you sound like every time a 22 year old ever had sexual relations with a 49 year old you lost a neuron. And I don’t feel bad for calling you out as stupid cuz you are grasping way harder to paint me as a predator.