And just before (probably the shit.justworks crowd…) come in to say this was an important thing to do and the reward outweighs the risk and blah blah blah:
What actionable intel would have come out of this? North Korea is already a nuclear power. Any attempt to “remove that capability” is going to trigger China and Russia and World War 3. Seoul is only 15 miles from the DMZ, so about 17 or 18 miles from where North Korea can do whatever the hell they want. Finding out about a dirty bomb or even plans to rush the DMZ and lob a proper nuke isn’t going to change anything.
Which is a recurring theme in recorded history when it comes to Intelligence. I forget the phrase experts use, but it is the idea that, consistently, the highest risk and most “daring” efforts tend to provide the least actionable intel. Whereas just slipping someone a couple thousand bucks to tell you what they know is consistently the most effective method.
Your politics mod is batshit insane “pro military” and I’ve increasingly noticed political topics on dot world and the like getting shared around your /c/conservative and so forth mostly lining up with swarms of pro military rightwing jackasses.
Very much seeming like it is a right wing dot ml. Not everyone is part of that crowd but… yeah.
Everyone wants to be 007 but the real world is more like a Le Carré novel. The work is tedious and often boring, if you find yourself in a ‘daring’ raid then something has gone real fuckin sideways in your intel gathering network.
Besides, it’s not like the SK frogmen don’t already know every inch of that coastline with their eyes closed but keep their safeties on because of the Chinese response, so yeah why the fuck were our SEALs even there?
North Korea doesn’t need nukes to level Seoul. They have artillery pointed at the city so in case a war starts they can just start firing. Some analysts think they could fire up to 10000 shells in just a minute. Even if the artillery will eventually get hit by air strikes they could cause a lot of damage.
Yeah… people tend to forget that modern artillery is actually in the 10-20 mile range to begin with. But that is really no different than “begin the invasion”. It isn’t like South Korea (and North Korea) aren’t watching the other side 24/7.
It is just that people usually use nukes as the exigent circumstances in a time like this. And I am going to specifically not speculate as to whether a nuclear bomb could be launched from behind the DMZ.
And just before (probably the shit.justworks crowd…) come in to say this was an important thing to do and the reward outweighs the risk and blah blah blah:
What actionable intel would have come out of this? North Korea is already a nuclear power. Any attempt to “remove that capability” is going to trigger China and Russia and World War 3. Seoul is only 15 miles from the DMZ, so about 17 or 18 miles from where North Korea can do whatever the hell they want. Finding out about a dirty bomb or even plans to rush the DMZ and lob a proper nuke isn’t going to change anything.
Which is a recurring theme in recorded history when it comes to Intelligence. I forget the phrase experts use, but it is the idea that, consistently, the highest risk and most “daring” efforts tend to provide the least actionable intel. Whereas just slipping someone a couple thousand bucks to tell you what they know is consistently the most effective method.
Huh? What’s your issue with my instance? How is shitjustworks pro-north-korea???
This was a very fucking stupid idea, which is probably why Trump OK’d it.
They are mad that SJW has the meanwhileOnGrad com.
It’s the opposite; they’re saying SJW users are more likely to blindly take the anti-NK position and support the operation.
I also have no idea what this person is talking about.
Your politics mod is batshit insane “pro military” and I’ve increasingly noticed political topics on dot world and the like getting shared around your /c/conservative and so forth mostly lining up with swarms of pro military rightwing jackasses.
Very much seeming like it is a right wing dot ml. Not everyone is part of that crowd but… yeah.
Ah yeah, I just blocked basically any conservative community, which is probably why I missed that.
Well, I’ve been looking for an excuse to move to piefed…
Everyone wants to be 007 but the real world is more like a Le Carré novel. The work is tedious and often boring, if you find yourself in a ‘daring’ raid then something has gone real fuckin sideways in your intel gathering network.
Besides, it’s not like the SK frogmen don’t already know every inch of that coastline with their eyes closed but keep their safeties on because of the Chinese response, so yeah why the fuck were our SEALs even there?
Because Trump can’t think beyond his next McDonald’s. He’s incredibly lucky that the US didn’t get caught in this.
North Korea doesn’t need nukes to level Seoul. They have artillery pointed at the city so in case a war starts they can just start firing. Some analysts think they could fire up to 10000 shells in just a minute. Even if the artillery will eventually get hit by air strikes they could cause a lot of damage.
Exactly. NK has shit guns, but even a shit gun can’t fail to hit an entire city. They might lose the war hard, but not before killing a LOT of people.
Yeah… people tend to forget that modern artillery is actually in the 10-20 mile range to begin with. But that is really no different than “begin the invasion”. It isn’t like South Korea (and North Korea) aren’t watching the other side 24/7.
It is just that people usually use nukes as the exigent circumstances in a time like this. And I am going to specifically not speculate as to whether a nuclear bomb could be launched from behind the DMZ.