A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

  • fox2263@lemmy.world
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    YouTube is hostile to viewers unless you pay them £20 a month.

    It’s like 15 ads per 2 mins screen time with 2 being unstoppable and 1 being 3 minutes long. Slightly exaggerated but not far from the truth. It’s horrible. And they slow everything down too, the main video fake buffers whereas when you’re in premium it doesn’t.

    I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.

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        It horrifies me as a German. They also get titles, descriptions and comments wrong all the time. It legitimately doesn’t work.

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        After some time it “learns” you don’t want it.

        But what grinds my gears instead are auto-translated video titles.
        Because I am watching maybe 70-80% english content I decided the lesser evil is to just set the language to english instead.
        Annoying as fuck but managable.

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          Because I am watching maybe 70-80% english content I decided the lesser evil is to just set the language to english instead.

          Google has always made it extremely clear that they don’t believe it’s possible for the human brain to know more than one language, and that anyone who claims to know more than one is a liar and a witch and has no place in their platforms.

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        I hate them for auto translating the video titles and descriptions with no way to turn them off, I even installed an extension to restore the original titles but YT broke it again intentionally or unintentionally with their unending tweaks.

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      for Android (TV): smart tube next

      For a browser (Firefox): ublock origin.

      Have not seen an ad in years, and i have not paid a cent to youtube.

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        For anyone following the smart tube next tutorial on github you don’t need to do anything after installing the “kutt.it/…” Download. You do not need to transfer an APK from your phone or computer. Literally just download the downloader, and type the beta or stable package address and install, also make sure you have developer options enabled beforehand.

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          Also, probably a great time to turn updates to your OS off, as Google is taking away the ability to sideload (well, kinda). It’s a whole story. Highly doubt that SmartTube Next is gonna get a licence to allow signing of their app.

    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Yep agreed.
      It’s downright disgusting to browse youtube without premium or an adblocker.

      Sadly I need premium simply because I am watching on an Android TV and I am not trusting third party clients with my google account.
      Too much stuff is associated with it (monetary)

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      And God forbid you enable captions on the video or something - it’ll disable itself every time an ad plays.

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          I assume you’re using a “smart” TV.

          Those things only exist to take power away from you. You should hook up a PC or laptop to your TV with a wireless keyboard and mouse so you’re not being herded by techbros.

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              I have the same setup as you and just pay the Premium. One thing I would recommend is getting isponsorblocktv on your server. It skips the ad reads within the YouTube content and works on Apple TV. Every year or so I look for a tracker doing YouTube or a sonarr YouTube fork. The instinct to hoard data is strong. But none have worked consistently for me.

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                Ah good shout, I remember looking in to that a while back but never went ahead.

                The hard thing about needing premium is I could likely easily not have it, but the scumbags limit downloads (cache) on YouTube kids to premium members, which comes in handy in a pickle for sure for my daughter.

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              Instead of using those, you could be using a free streaming site. You’ll get more content and it’s easier to set up.

              Just type in the URL, and search for what you want.

              Here’s one of the best sites I’ve found: https://hydrahd.io/ I guarantee they have significantly more offerings than either apple tv or your plex.

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                Free streaming sites are awful. I prefer my way thank you.

                And I don’t mind paying for things, just not getting ripped off.

                I buy things on 4k that are special, then on iTunes for in between and then high seas everything else. I have a decent home server.

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                  Free streaming sites are awful.

                  No they aren’t, lol. But whatever floats your boat.

                  I’ll be over here enjoying more things for a cheaper price and helping others do the same.

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                    Yeah, they are. So why do you think they set all of that up for you to freely stream torrents? What is in it for them? Data harvesting? Malware? What?

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            Yeah fuck using a keyboard and mouse at 5 meters away. You really should roll a custom Linux box with a remote control setup and Plasma Bigscreen. Custom YouTube client too, for better visibility

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              Don’t listen to this person. He’s trying to make things unnecessarily complicated because he doesn’t know any better.

              We don’t see people using keyboards for their TVs, instead we see them slowly type with on screen keyboards. A remote control is not going to alleviate this and will make setup significantly more complicated.

              I’m going to block this user now, so I won’t get to see his reply. I’ve been on the internet long enough to recognize people like him for what they are and move on.

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                Lol you’re the one plugging a super inconvenient solution as if it should be the default, I just took it farther to ridicule yours. It’s great that you can’t stand criticism of your questionable ideas and have to block others. Means your ideas aren’t too be taken seriously.

                Have you considered that the average TV user sits down after a hard day and doesn’t want to troubleshoot a wireless mouse, nor boot a computer separately from turning on the TV? The world out there is rough, your TV is supposed to be the one thing that just works and numbs it down for you so you can pretend things are fine.

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      I have premium through a page that makes family groups and you pay a lot less. From time to time there is an issue with the group and you spend like two days without premium until it is fixed.

      During those periods YT is unwatchable and I skip using it until the issue is fixed

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      And then there is the occasional 30 minute to an hour infomercial that comes on obvious stuff people watch to go to sleep! I wanted someone softly talking about outer spacey things, not you’re shitty product I give so much little of a fuck about that I didn’t even look at what was being advertised. I hate you so much I will not even remember your name to give you free advertising by birding about you online!

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      I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.

      Useful idiot mentality. They’re charging you that money to maximize profit, not because it’s necessary to provide the service.

      Your “fivers” are paying for their nicer campuses, executive bonuses, and lavish business trips/vacations. Analysts also use it as an excuse to charge more, since the data shows that people like you are “happy/proud” to get ripped off.

      I wish proles were smarter and a bit more mean so they could better recognize how they’re being taken advantage of and how often they support their oppressors.

      Too many of you go along with getting taken for a ride because you want to fit in and avoid conflict. Businessmen take advantage of that mentality every day.

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        Yes, large scale video hosting is notoriously free to provide.

        YouTube the service absolutely has a cost to it. It’s been born by the owners at first and then people who watch ads. It got profitable when they started showing more ads. Premium is a way to get out of watching ads. You and I use adblockers and it’s fine but if a significant share of people did, the cost for paying users would have to keep increasing.