• Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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    17 hours ago

    Damn, that’s the same bass-ackwards logic that record companies use to say piracy makes them lose money.

    Spoiler alert: the majority of people pirating your stuff would not have otherwise purchased it. You have lost nothing.

    Similarly, the majority of people using gamepass to play the game would absolutely not have bought the game, especially since it’s the same game as last time, with new names and skins.

    For instance: the last call of duty game I bought was MW3. I only played black ops 2 when someone got two copies for their birthday and gave one to me I only remember playing for the zombies. I have played a total of less than 30 minutes, from startup screen to shutdown, of all the call of duties since then. Absolutely no chance in hell I’d buy another one. But I’m sure Microsoft would have included me trying it out as a potential lost sale of every one of them.

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      12 hours ago

      I think for a series established that well, they should have a good estimate of how many people would have bought the game. Especially with the PlayStation crowd as a control group. Though there are probably more PS5s out there than Xbox Series devices. So in this case I do think that yes, a lot more people would have bought it.

      If your argument was fully correct, there wouldn’t have been many games sold on PlayStation either.

      They would probably have loved to lower those 84% for PlayStation sales using the logic if it was justifiable. But no matter what, you’ll always have to admit a mistake: either that GamePass hurts sales, that the market share of Xbox Series is small compared to the PlayStation or that your number one IP that you acquired for a lot of money and banked on no longer draws a crowd. Neither of these options looks good.

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      16 hours ago

      I really don’t understand why people like those games. I don’t find them fun at all. And the micro transactions are so fucking obnoxious.

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        15 hours ago

        They’re a very pure and straightforward shooter experience with a lot of polish. I don’t think it’s that weird.

        The level of monetization is totally unhinged at this point, but there’s a good game buried underneath it all.

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        16 hours ago

        I used to play black ops 1 a shitload. I was fresh out of highschool and it was my first online game after getting internet. I already liked FPS games and this was interactive FPS with actual skilled people instead of shitty bullet sponge bots.

        As for why people love them so much now? I have no idea. I’m sure I also wouldn’t have cared for them if I had played online games earlier in life.

        I’d much rather have a compelling story nowadays.

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          13 hours ago

          People like them now because they are in the same situation you were when you liked them.

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            There didn’t used to be microtransactions. And now days there’s so many free options that paying for an annual title that has microtransactions seems a rip off in comparison because of the alternatives. And those alternatives have huge player bases.

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      14 hours ago

      Man piracy should get their act together there is piracy causes more people to purchase your games. Then there is they never would have bought it. Frankly I don’t care I orate cause I want to and don’t try to justify it with any BS.

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        12 hours ago

        Seriously. I never would have bought Earthion, TWICE, if I hadn’t pirated it and fell in love with it. I firmly believe in financially supporting creators that make things I love. I DON’T believe in taking the risk of paying asking price for a game I may not enjoy in an era when demos are a rarity. As a point of comparison, Trails in the Sky FC has a demo, which I played, and convinced me to buy the full version. Pirating Switch content isn’t worth the time an effort to me, and without the demo, I never would have bought it.