With claims like this, you make it very easy to dismiss what you’re saying, but given that I kinda can guess what you mean if I give you the biggest benefit of the doubt humanly imaginable, are you referring to the type of people who say shit like “we should form a party” completely oblivious to the way their own politcal system works and the fact that it would only ensure that the only path to escaping the regime was sealed shut?
No, he’s right. I know, it’s hard to believe, but these people really are batshit crazy. We’re talking stetements like “Stalin did nothing wrong”, “China is right in killing the Uigures” and “Ukraine is former UDSSR territory therefore Russia is not invading”.
It’s a mild exaggeration. I sometimes talk about things happening on the fediverse without providing a link, but the difference is, if I’m asked for a link, I can provide one. It isn’t difficult to use the search function, especially if my memory of a conversation is reliable.
In any case, it’s always best to assume the person is lying if they say something about their opponents’ views that they can’t actually back up. Like, I could say that I had some half-remembered conversation with somebody where they said they like to torture puppies. If you read that, it shouldn’t go into the “maybe” column, it should do into the “false” column. It’s false until it’s validated with evidence, and that’s especially true when evidence should be easy to provide.
If you treat it as anything but an outright lie, that promotes a culture of making stuff up, because bad actors are fine with getting people to think their opponents “might” torture puppies, and they won’t get called out in that culture. This is how you get crybullies.
In any case, even if it isn’t an outright lie or bad faith, you can’t rely on people’s memories. Hell, a lot of the time, a person couldn’t even accurately restate the other person’s position during an argument.
I’ve said this line dozens of times btw (and it’s in my profile). I don’t recall ever being proven wrong, they never have the receipts.
I am in China right now, plan to go back to urumqi in a few weeks, just wanted you to know this is some “Portland is a warzone”-tier deviation from reality. Literally anyone can just go there.
You could check the MeanwhileOnGrad community that documents every bit of it, but your instance admins blocked it on your instance to keep you all in the dark and shield themselves from accountability. You’ll have to view it from a different instance.
Popped over and saw a post saying a user was praising the Uyghur genocide. Read the post and instead it was a guy saying that China was successfully deradicalising terrorists…
So yeah. No ones saying “I love that China is genociding muslims!”
With claims like this, you make it very easy to dismiss what you’re saying, but given that I kinda can guess what you mean if I give you the biggest benefit of the doubt humanly imaginable, are you referring to the type of people who say shit like “we should form a party” completely oblivious to the way their own politcal system works and the fact that it would only ensure that the only path to escaping the regime was sealed shut?
No, he’s right. I know, it’s hard to believe, but these people really are batshit crazy. We’re talking stetements like “Stalin did nothing wrong”, “China is right in killing the Uigures” and “Ukraine is former UDSSR territory therefore Russia is not invading”.
If someone says something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
That’s an easy position to have except it immediately makes every conversation easy to coherence with sealioning.
I can understand being skeptical of the other persons summary of sentiment, I am as well, but I don’t think your statement is accurate.
It’s a mild exaggeration. I sometimes talk about things happening on the fediverse without providing a link, but the difference is, if I’m asked for a link, I can provide one. It isn’t difficult to use the search function, especially if my memory of a conversation is reliable.
In any case, it’s always best to assume the person is lying if they say something about their opponents’ views that they can’t actually back up. Like, I could say that I had some half-remembered conversation with somebody where they said they like to torture puppies. If you read that, it shouldn’t go into the “maybe” column, it should do into the “false” column. It’s false until it’s validated with evidence, and that’s especially true when evidence should be easy to provide.
If you treat it as anything but an outright lie, that promotes a culture of making stuff up, because bad actors are fine with getting people to think their opponents “might” torture puppies, and they won’t get called out in that culture. This is how you get crybullies.
In any case, even if it isn’t an outright lie or bad faith, you can’t rely on people’s memories. Hell, a lot of the time, a person couldn’t even accurately restate the other person’s position during an argument.
I’ve said this line dozens of times btw (and it’s in my profile). I don’t recall ever being proven wrong, they never have the receipts.
I am in China right now, plan to go back to urumqi in a few weeks, just wanted you to know this is some “Portland is a warzone”-tier deviation from reality. Literally anyone can just go there.
Today I got a “no russia is freeing Ukraine from nazis and the genocide that Ukraine was doing to russia” some fucking how lol
Can you provide some examples
You could check the MeanwhileOnGrad community that documents every bit of it, but your instance admins blocked it on your instance to keep you all in the dark and shield themselves from accountability. You’ll have to view it from a different instance.
Popped over and saw a post saying a user was praising the Uyghur genocide. Read the post and instead it was a guy saying that China was successfully deradicalising terrorists…
So yeah. No ones saying “I love that China is genociding muslims!”
Hey look everyone! It’s a single example to serve as proof that the well-documented dumbassery of .ml is all just made up!
Hey look everyone! It’s multiple users who can’t provide any examples to validate the rumors they’re spreading about people they dislike!
You’ve got nothing and you know it