• Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    First: Some UK teachers exchanged the analogue with digital clocks. This was only to reduce interruptions by some students (during a specific kind of UK exams), who had trouble determining the remaining time in the heat of the exam battle.

    Secondly: The use of analogue clocks is taught at UK schools. What’s missing is the practice that former generations of pupils had. No more wristwatches, public clocks all but gone, and (what I am nostalgically missing from my youth) no more peeking onto parked car’s dashboards to read the analogue clock there. Times have changed, and this specific partially lost ability is not the schools’ fault. (Not to say that other things aren’t…)

    Can we please bury that stupid old meme, as it has been based on some inaccurate buzz and largely giving a completely inaccurate impression of the topic from the start…

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      no more peeking onto parked car’s dashboards to read the analogue clock there.

      Eventually, Lexus might stop including the analog clock as a luxury feature.

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      I used to troll my teachers with inane questions to help my friends prepare for exams or quizzes that we knew were coming. I can’t expect it’s changed much.

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      My wrist watches were always digital, public clocks in suburbia I’m just gonna say never existed, in cars wtf?

      I can only see this as an education problem.

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      This was only to reduce interruptions by some students (during a specific kind of UK exams), who had trouble determining the remaining time in the heat of the exam battle

      I am not being funny but if someone is unable to read the time perhaps they shouldn’t be in the exam room in the first place.

      It is like saying that all questions will be read out loud all the time and verbal answers recorded instead of written ones - because some students are illiterate.

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        Honestly if you can’t calculate things on an abacus you shouldn’t be in the exam room tbh. Sure, calculators have been invented and have ultimately replaced the abacus in nearly every facet of day to day life, but surely you know how to add beads together?

        We’re letting kids use GPS to get to school now? What the street signs and constellations aren’t good enough for you?

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          Let me rephrase it than - if someone is an idiot, they shouldn’t be in the exam room. If you are concerned about it, it may be because you fit the category.

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            What makes people who didn’t learn to read analog clocks idiots? If you have a thing about analog clocks, just keep it to yourself.

            it may be because you fit the category

            Or maybe because it’s just stupid af to judge people’s intelligence based on an unrelated life skill.

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              What makes people who didn’t learn to read analog clocks idiots?

              Wrong question. The correct would be: what make people who are too lazy or too stupid to learn the clock idiots - but that would be a rhetorical one.

              it’s just stupid af to judge people’s intelligence based on an unrelated life skill.

              Intelligence is an ability to obtain knowledge and skills. If someone lacks both, it is a strong indication of them not having enough intelligence to obtain them.

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                who are too lazy or too stupid

                They do know how to read the clock (digital ones :) ) Again, it doesn’t make them idiots or lazy for not learning something they don’t really need to learn

                Intelligence is an ability to obtain knowledge and skills. If someone lacks both, it is a strong indication of them not having enough intelligence to obtain them.

                What makes you think they don’t have the ability to learn how to read analog clocks just because they don’t? You might not know how ride a horse, but that doesn’t mean you can’t learn how to. Are you an idiot for not learning how to?

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                  They do know how to read the clock

                  They also know how to use calculator, they just don’t knot 2 times 2 is four without it. Neither have place during an exam.

                  What makes you think they don’t have the ability to learn how to read analog clocks

                  Because if they did, they would have done during lessons to learn it, sweetie 🙄

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                    Because if they did, they would have done during lessons to learn it, sweetie

                    Thanks for calling me a sweetie. Love u too. Forgetting is a thing. Unlike previous generations they are not as much exposed to analog ones. Therefore they don’t need to. Digital clocks are used in electronic devices etc.

                    They also know how to use calculator, they just don’t knot 2 times 2 is four without it. Neither have place during an exam

                    Except basic math is necessary since the brain is faster with smaller calculations and analog clock really isn’t that much necessary anymore. They can be replaced.

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                    Not the one widely used, but they do know how to use the clock. And they’re not really that much more used than digital clocks. Therefore, it doesn’t matter

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            13 hours ago

            Yikes.

            Also, since you ran out of arguments and started correcting people’s spelling, *then.

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              “yikes” what?

              Passing exams is not an entitlement, it is an achievement. If someone is an idiot unable to understand the clock, they shouldn’t be in the exam room in the first place - and they certainly shouldn’t expect someone will start explaining clock to them when they are supposed to write an exam.

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                Why are you so adamant that reading an analog clock is required to pass an exam that doesn’t feature any material related to reading analog clocks?

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        Students with dyslexia do get special treatment. There is no reason to discriminate against people lacking an unrelated skill and it’s not funny to demand it so we at least agree on something

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          I am not referring to students with diagnosed disabilities - I am referring to the vast majority without.

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            … in the context that many students can’t read analog clocks and shouldn’t get help. Pretty sure there is no official diagnosis for this so no problem and they don’t deserve to know how much time they have left in a biology exam. Again, there is no reason to discriminate against people lacking unrelated skills, if diagnosed or undiagnosed.

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              Let me put it this way: if someone is not disabled and still unable or too lazy to understand the clock, they shouldn’t be in the exam room in the first place.

              This is not a “discrimination” - most exams are for the people with a some level of the IQ, certainly above the level of a radiator. Or a stool.

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                unable or too lazy to understand the clock,

                They can understand the clock? Just not the analog clock. Why should they anyways? It’s not like that’s the only way to tell time and since reading analog clocks is an unrelated skill why do u think they’re not fit to write exams? It has nothing to do with IQ, it’s just that analog clocks aren’t as common as they used to be. Hence, they’re less used to them than previous generations. They probably can learn to read them if they wanted to, but they just don’t bother, since they don’t really need it these days

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                  Just not the analog clock. Why should they anyways?

                  Because it is is widely used?

                  Why should they learn alphabet in the first place? Why should they learn numbers?

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                    It’s not really widely used anymore.

                    Alphabets can’t be replaced by something easier and more convenient. But clocks can be

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        Ah, okay, I can’t take exams because my dyscalculia makes it difficult for me to read a clock (and it’s not worth my time).

        👍

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          No, you shouldn’t pass exams if you are an idiot - and if you do take them, don’t expect a special treatment because of your stupidity.

          And no, as I said people with diagnosed disability are a different matter.

          Hopefully that clarifies it for you.