• Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    2 days ago

    Yes, men AND women are both taking responsibility. Just because you can point to few cases of morons, doesnt make “women are sluts who use abortion as birth control” anymore true than the bullshit youre pedalling. But nice try, trying to get out of the “historical terms” bullshit, but shifting the focus to modern day… Doesnt at all make you look desperate to be right, regardless of facts…

    Theres bad apples in every bunch. Only a bigot tries to frame that bad apple as the whole bunch.

    • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      Ok I’ll ignore the name calling one last time.

      I’ll put it super simply, in the hope that you misunderstanding me wasn’t as intentional as it comes across

      1. barrier methods have always been, and continue to be, a shared responsibility

      2. all other non-permanent methods have been purely on women until very recently.

      • Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        Ignore whatever the fuck you like. Youre bigoted cunt, and thats all there is to it. You dont like being called out? Have you tried, not being a perpetually online sexist piece of shit? Fuck you.

        • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          Can you please point out the thing I said that you consider sexist, and why? I’m striving not to be, and like to learn where I can.

          • Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            It’s less of a conspiracy and more that it didn’t even occur to society until pretty recently (in historical terms) that reproduction isn’t solely a woman’s responsibility

            This is sexism. Its not true, as evidenced by the facts I gave to you that you obviously looked up to find out they were true, because you didnt push back on them. Things like this are why women are all terrified of men. Because people like you keep on pushing that narrative that men treat sex as something to do TO women, not WITH women.

            Once again, just because SOME men are pricks, doesnt make it OK for you or others to tar “ALL MEN” with their actions.

            Imagine what men might say about women, if we applied the actions of the few to the whole? What would we sound like? Incels… And we know what we all think about them, dont we…

            • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 day ago

              I said society. The word ‘men’ isn’t even in the thing I said that you quoted. Much less ‘all men’. Both men and women saw reproduction as a woman’s responsibility. Can you explain why that’s a sexist thing to say? Or, if it’s not true, why nobody tried to research male hormonal birth control at the same time they were researching female hormonal birth control?

              Also, I didn’t have to look that up. It’s common knowledge. But, as I said, there’s no reason to believe your claim that barrier methods were ever solely men’s responsibility. You didn’t even really offer evidence or a justification for that claim.

              I also never said men are pricks. I said that the responsibility to use barrier methods isn’t always on men and that women who have casual sex with men could easily confirm that. There’s people who are being responsible and people who are being irresponsible of any gender. Once again, I’m just taking issue with your claim that barrier methods are and always were men’s responsibility.