• Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 hour ago

    Were the Virginia planters keeping sex slaves capitalists though? Most of the capitalists at the time were up north where slavery was illegal by the founding.

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        There is a world of room between “good” and “ran a child sex trafficking ring”. Clinton may be a POS for many reasons and he may have visited Epstine island and maybe even raped children (we don’t know at this point but anyone in the flight logs is sus). That is all absolutely terrible but it’s still very different than kidnapping 10’s or hundreds of children to rape and pimp. And the files seem to indicate that Trump was actively involved in this scheme for decades.

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            There’s no evidence he did anything inappropriate with kids.

            Trump, however, has been accused by multiple Epstein victims.

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            Fair. I do think scale is sometime important. A single murder is not a genocide. But I can see your POV.

            Regardless, Clinton is awful but IDK what he did on the island. If he did rape kids then I hope they throw his ass in jail.

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        2 hours ago

        For liberals, and right wing in general, it’s just another Red Team vs. Blue Team match with political flavor.

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      projecting lol

      Americans are always amazed that different countries have different histories.

      I’ve heard similar things about “aren’t all countries founded on native genocide?”

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          Oh look, on of my favorite trolls crawls out of his hole again after long slumber. Last I checked, Beria was executed while your oligarchs continue to be untouchable. Thank your for providing us with a concrete example of the Soviet system being superior.

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            Last I checked, Epstein also ended up dying prematurely, while Stalin continued to be untouchable (who btw. married a 14 year old).

            Thank you for providing us with an concrete example of all states being the the same shit.

            Edit: Ok, apparently Stalin’s second wife was 18 when they married (he was 40 at the time). Sounds like he waited until it was formally legal to do so…

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              Sounds like he waited until it was formally legal to do so…

              So a nothingburger. It is absolutely unacceptable by today’s standard for me and many more, not all since in Mexico it’s still fairly common, but Stalin did it in the early 20th century in an especially underdeveloped region, the fact that he “waited” is already a progressive stance for his epoch. Also there is an abyss of difference between marrying a young girl than having a collection or harem of girls to rape whenever one feels like.

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              Thank you for providing us with an concrete example of all states being the the same shit.

              You’ve been so blackpilled by capitalist realism that you think it makes you enlightened. It’s a form of self-reinforcing learned helplessness.

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              Stalin’s first wife, Ekaterina Svanidze, was 21 years old when they married in 1906. His second wife, Nadezhda Alliluyeva, was 18 years old at the time of their marriage in 1919.

              More Montefiore nonsense no doubt.

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                Ok, I stand corrected about Stalin not being a totally upstanding person of 40 years old when he married his second wife that just barely turned 18 🙄

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                  This is just silly. Keep moving the goalposts further and further from the founding, child-raping slavers.

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                  Yet still not a pedophile as you were trying to say. Almost like you have an agenda you really want to push. One that really coincides with that of the Epstein alliance.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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              Epstein was just a harem manager for the rich fucks who continue to run around completely unaccountable. Meanwhile, others already pointed out your attempts to spread misinformation here. I guess carrying water for the empire by trying to do the whole both sides bad is really the core identity for anarchists.

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              zionist montefiore probably has a totally nuanced perspective to write a biography about stalin, no doubt!

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          Allegations from Montefiore famous for lying about having access to unreleased Soviet archives, being a rabid anti-communist and being best friends with Ghislaine Maxwell. Certainly not the most reliable source.