A lot of older PC games can run just fine on modern phone hardware. I’d buy a SteamOS version of a phone that has some modular or built-in set of buttons and analog sticks. I don’t know how the app ecosystem would work for sensitive things like banking but it’s mostly a minor issue for me.
Yes but not for gaming, just to get a Linux phone.
That’s actually a great point. If it runs actual Linux, not Android, that’s a decent reason to buy. Valve might actually upstream the patches, if any, which would enable virtually all Linux distros to run in it.
So a Linux phone that works?
On one hand I would love that. On the other hand it would have access to my steam games and that might be a problem
Yeah this is the important bit to me. Valve does good work and contributes to FOSS, sure, but I’m not going to blindly follow everything they do. Right now the Linux phone space just flat out isn’t viable for daily drivers. If Valve are the first ones to really address this, cool! But I’m not going to put them on a pedestal over any other options.
Considering that they are the only pro-Linux company in a position to start delivering to my country, that might just be my only option.
So, as long as they let me install custom stuff without restriction and have enough Linux support for the hardware they choose, they don’t even need to do any special repairability stuff for me to happily give them my money.Oh for sure. They’re no saints but they’re very far from the worst option out there, and they’ve been making some massive contributions to the linux space in general. I’d gladly grab something they made if they happen to be one of the first on the scene - look at the Steam Deck and what it’s done for the handheld space.
Had they added a cell SIM slot to the deck, I would have just bought that.
Isn’t Sailfish OS already pretty much “a Linux phone that works”?
As someone who’s used a couple phones running SFOS, it’s worked pretty well. it’s not perfect/has some quirks but the UI is really nice and there’s a community of people making apps for it and the like. Plus it’s Linux which is nice.
no, because having all your eggs in a single basket is a patently bad idea. no matter what brand the basket is
A Steam smartphone implies to me its main purpose is to play PC games and not caring about the other stuff. And no, for that reason I wouldn’t buy a Steam smartphone. Because playing games on mobile phone sucks, for controls (and I always need a controller in addition), battery life and size. And its probably as expensive as a PC. I would rather buy a dedicated handheld, if its available in this form. And if its based on Android, its a nogo anyway, for privacy reasons.
depends.
if it’s basically a continuation of the xperia play, but otherwise a regular modern day smartphone with passing safety net, unlockable bootloader, a 3,5mm jack, sd card slot, stereo front firing speaker, decent camera, absolutely.depends, if it’s [continues to describe the most perfect dream phone to ever exist], absolutely.
i mean, that’s my requirements. OP didnt specify what it would be and i dont wanna put out a blanket yes or no and then be called a liar or something when it eventually comes out and doesn’t cover my requirements for a definite buy.
Nice try Nokia ngage crew!
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I would want to try one, especially if it’s fully compatible between Linux and the mobile modem. Wouldn’t need any controller hardware on the phone itself, just needs a companion clip on controller that integrates nicely. Would definitely try to buy one if it had an underclocked/power limited laptop processor, that switches to full power when connected to a dock or charger. Something that could drive dual 1080p monitors.
Absolutely, we need more Linux phone options.
Steam Deck is plenty, I wouldn’t want to try “real” gaming on a phone.
Nah
Need my banking apps and other things for life
Mobile sucks. Smartphones are just too limited for real gaming. First problem is the hardware; you cant just put a desktop or laptop processors into a mobile device. Second is a small screen, which is very difficult to use for touchscreen controls and simply too small to actually see what is being displayed.
Define “real” gaming.
There’s plenty of excellent games that can run on a toaster, and can run on a tiny screen
By real games i mean pc games. There are plenty of various open source lauchers or third party android ports from github which can run real pc games on android. But the problem remains: either bad performance, as the game is not optimised for mobile hardware, or terrible touchscreen controls, as the pc games might require a lot of keys to play.
For example, i can play minecraft java edition on android using zalith launcher, but some medium modpacks may not work due to lack of memory or unsupported mods, and playing it using touchscreen is very difficult. Unlike some other games, minecraft java edition isnt really designed about controllers, and even with dedicated mods which add support for them, arent really useful.
Sounds like gamerbro elitism to me tbh. You need to widen your horizons and/or touch grass.
I didn’t know that those millions of games on every other device through the last 56 years were actually imaginary. That’s fascinating!
look if you played the SNES in the 80s im not saying youre a bad person, but like thats just not the same thing as real gaming. PC gaming is the only real option, consoles, especially normie consoles like the SNES just cant perform
You, right now
I dont think i understand what do you mean.
I’m saying you need to touch grass if you think PC games are the only “real” games
You can already emulate all those consoles on Android though…
Ah but people who use phones to play games aren’t real gamers, this is the statement made by @gegil@sopuli.xyz
Absolutely. Can you imagine hearing the big picture mode starting every time you slide out the modern equivalent of this bad boy that was ahead of its time
Maybe. My phone is not a gaming device for me. But I would choose based on how well it works for other purposes.
I already have a smartphone, no intention of buying another one.
This is what is known as a “hypothetical question”, the idea is that your don’t answer based on your actual situation, but based on a hypothetical one.
So, now imagine instead that a wizard teleported your current phone into the plane of fire, destroying it, and you have a gift voucher that can only be spent on phones that’s “one free phone” and there’s a Steam Phone in the shop. Would you want it? Would you buy it?
My actual situation is surely shared by most users here. We don’t need more phones.
Even if it would offer privacy?
But why would it?
Because GNU/Linux
Edit: GNU/Linux, not kernel Linux
Android is Linux, and that hasn’t stopped Google…
They don’t update the software on the steam deck frequently enough for me to be confident for phone software where security is more of a concern
It’s fine on a game device, but I have much more personal data on my phone
Is Valve’s update cycle really worse than what the typical Android device gets?
Is Valve’s update cycle really worse than what the typical Android device gets?
No but also yes. No because Valve supports their hardware extremely long but also yes because several design decisions of SteamOS as seen on Steam Deck weren’t made with data security in mind. Storage isn’t encrypted, Game Mode has only a simple PIN lock but the underlying Linux account “deck” has no password, so Desktop Mode (=KDE Plasma) cannot be locked out of the box.
That said, Valve will release a Linux ARM version of Steam later this year, so there is no need to solely rely on Valve for a Linux phone that runs Steam and its games.
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