U.S.-born Pope Leo XIV pushed back Monday on Donald Trump’s broadside against him over the U.S.-Israel war in Iran, telling reporters that the Vatican’s appeals for peace and reconciliation are rooted in the Gospel, and that he doesn’t fear the Trump administration.

“To put my message on the same plane as what the president has attempted to do here, I think is not understanding what the message of the Gospel is,” Leo told AP aboard the papal plane en route to Algeria. “And I’m sorry to hear that but I will continue on what I believe is the mission of the church in the world today.”

History’s first U.S.-born pope stressed that he was not making a direct attack against Trump or anyone else with his general appeal for peace and criticisms of the “delusion of omnipotence” that is fueling the Iran wars and other conflicts around the world.

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    Years ago with Catholics during the first Trump presidency they would side with Republican talking points over church guidance, and that was on the Wall.

    It’s going to be a short fight where the Catholic church realizes that in a choice between Fox news and the Church, Fox News is what America Catholics believe in. I bet they could even get a bishop or two to follow.

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      The American Catholic Church Hierarchy is extremely conservative. We can get a bishop or two to follow the pope, the rest are with the antichrist make no mistake.

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    We keep talking about evangelical Armageddon…

    But the one in Islam is looking even more likely every day.

    For them, Muslims and Christians are supposed to unite against the Anti-christ, and then Jesus comes back to lead the armies of God, and converts everyone to Islam.

    The way shits going, I could see the Pope and Muslim leaders unifying. But it’s still concerning the goal of most world leaders is to end the fucking world. At least after Islam’s Armageddon we’re supposed to get 40 years of peace a under Jesus as a world leader. It won’t happen, but at least there’s a happy ending there.

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      Things get even more fun if you look at the Gnostic view of Armageddon.

      Gnostics believe that God (the Abrahamic God, anyway) is an evil piece of shit. The whole Judgement Day thing is Abrahamic God exerting control over the physical realm, because you’re supposed to think that you’re not allowed to say no to him. Same goes for Armageddon - it has to be a big bombastic event because God hates you and wants you to suffer for not believing in him.

      Gnostic Armageddon is more personal. Your goal is to begin Armageddon, except Armageddon affects you and you alone, and when enacted you get tossed out of Abrahamic God’s domain into somewhere more spiritual. While everyone else gets stuck fighting wars for their bloodthirsty master, you get to see what comes next.

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        Gnostics believe that God (the Abrahamic God, anyway) is an evil piece of shit.

        I mean…

        Objectively he is

        It didn’t start out as monotheistic, back in the day every city had their own god.

        Yahewah/Allah’s followers just conquered everyone else and said it proved their god was Yahweh/Allah this whole time. If anyone disagreed they were killed.

        He was an early war god, and his followers acted like it. The whole point of Gods of that era was to give enemies a reason to stay away and not invade.

        My god is an awesome god

        Meant:

        My god scares the absolute shit out of me, and if you’re not scared of him yet I’ll make you scared of him.

        When Yahweh/Allah was repackaged as peace loving, it went so hard that it flipped the meaning of awesome/awful.

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      Maybe the Mormons are right (except they’re not), and all of the people considered decent under the Mormon rules (most conservative Christians would be included, others, significantly less likely) get to live on Earth for a thousand years of peace. That was always the thing that interested me when I still believed. Shame that every single bit of bullshit we’ve all been forced to go through is for nothing. Over time, I’ve grown to understand why some people believe in a reward.

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        Can you imagine how furious conservatives would be living in peace for 1,000 years? No defense contractors to feed, no dark money politics, no wars of aggression or looting natural resources. They’d never make it.

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      Gimme wolves devouring the sun and moon, drunk warriors with sword and spear, screaming Valkyries, a boat made from the nails of dead men hauling the forces of the underworld to the battleground, a venom spewing world serpent, a god-killer wolf, and a fire demon that just burns it all down in the end. Nobody apocalypses like the vikings.

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    while also suggesting the pontiff should “stop catering to the Radical Left.”

    Yeah, like that Jesus guy with the sick, and the poor, prostitutes, pariahs, lepers, etc. Pushing peace and love thy neighbor… Fucking leftist radical!

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    I’m curious as to the ratio between Catholic Christians and non-Catholic Christians. While the Catholic church has it’s own bad history some of those non-Catholic Christians are complete whack-jobs!

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    The fucking evagelicans that support Trump are nuts, would like to see the world burn and have some crazy obsession with giving zionist money to take people’s home. Something about end of times shit, which is why they’re letting the world burn.