• asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 day ago

    So you think the isolation of Russia is caused by Putin’s policies and not the NATO’s constant aggression against Russian sovereignty since they didn’t bend over to them like the rest of the ex-western Warsaw Pact countries?

    Also, what are your thoughts about Ukraine literally kidnapping and sending their thousands of unwilling men, be them young or old, to the warzones?

    • MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.deBanned from community
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      The isolation Russia is a direct response to the 2022 invasion. Before that, Russia was a member of the G8, a massive / main energy partner to Europe, and widely integrated into the global economy. Those bonds where cut after the invasion, not before.

      Regarding you second question: I don’t see many other options for the Ukrainian government. The tragedy of forced mobilization on both sides is clear, but the responsibility for that tragedy is by the party that made mobilization necessary in the first place.

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        but the responsibility for that tragedy is by the party that made mobilization necessary in the first place.

        then the question becomes do you blame the ukrainian far right government for shelling the separatists in the east of the country gaza style for wanting to succeed from ukraine over their fascist behavior or do you blame nato for breaking its promised against encroachment.

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          20 hours ago

          Equating the Donbas conflict to Gaza ignores the presence of Russian regular forces and proxies documented since 2014 or so. Ukraine was defending its borders against an insurgency backed by a foreign power. In this localized conflict both sides broke ceasefires multiple times.

          Why is the encroachment story a reason for invasion? This move actually pushed Finnland in to Nato. If the invasion should have been a move against Nato it wasn’t a smart one