• theolodis@feddit.org
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    2 days ago

    Just so we’re clear, what does racism mean to you? What are the consequences of racism against you, a white person, and what are the consequences of racism against, let’s say a black person, in the USA?

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      2 days ago

      Nah man, I was serious, I’m not doing this with you. Your argument is flawed to where it could be easily used to justify Apartheid and I’m just. I don’t have the patience to deal with educating someone that doesn’t understand that “saying everyone of a certain descent behaves some way” is inherently racist. Sorry, but no.

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        Ok my guy, you really need to go out some more. And maybe read. Because it’s a fact that asian countries lead the world rice consumption, followed by mostly south american and african countries. Just look up rice consumption by country, or if you prefer look it up per capita. (https://worldostats.com/country-stats/rice-consumption-per-capita-by-country-2025-rankings/)

        Now having established this fact (not a feeling, not racism, just a fact about rice consumption), and then considering that the USA has a considerable population of people originating from those countries, the conclusion that the majority of rice domestically consumed in the US is being consumed mostly by people of asian (and maybe south american) descent is not raciat, but simply supported by facts.

        But reading what you write I assume that you are a white american of european descent, that does just like to feel offended.

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          Oh hey, trying to bait someone into engaging with your bonkers arguments by repeatedly insulting them, that’s a great look.

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            2 days ago

            Brother you’re engaging for over an hour already, you’re just ignoring the argument and building straw men instead of admitting that you were clueless (or provide any factual evidence)

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              Perhaps you could take this as an opportunity to reflect on your earlier statement and try to understand why people might view it as problematic, instead of lashing out and insisting you did nothing wrong?

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                If you’re the one seeing racism in any statement, you might want to reflect yourself. Yes, my initial statement wasn’t elaborated in the way it should have, and maybe I didn’t expect the level of american centric education I’ve found here, because as somebody that’s been around in this world it is just blatantly obvious to me that different regions have different food preferences, and that this is not related to race, but culture.

                Also, if you can spare that little time, I am really, honestly, interested in how you think that not believing in racism against white people does let me justify apartheid. Because Apartheid is usually a construct white people use to separate themselves from other “races”, as seen in the US, South Africa and Palestine.

                I’d also like to add that my replies contained no insults (feel free to point them out to me), so if you felt insulted it’s most likely because you feel exposed.

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                  “Well my insults must have been accurate so they don’t count” what a fascinating way to absolve yourself from responsibility for your actions. Not right, nor novel, but I very rarely see that reasoning coming from a non-conservative-maga-esque source. Which is of course just observation exposing you, not an insult. Really if you’re insulted thats just because of how accurate my statements pointing out you sound like MAGA really were. Mom you don’t understand, I’m not touching him, therefore I am innocent and he’s just a whiner.

                  Admittedly that wasn’t my most mature explanation, but I do think it gets the point across rather clearly. Anyways, I’ll happily throw you a bone of a real explanation: Not being able to be racist against white people because they are the majority is the issue there. Apartheid, which was oppression of the majority by the minority, was undeniably racist - but by your reasoning would have been impossible to be considered thus.

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                    2 days ago

                    You, again, put words in my mouth I never said, which is a straw man. I said that I did write a single insult and invited you to point out a single one, which you didn’t. You feeling offended, embarassed or even insulted does not mean that I did insult you by default. Not saying that your feelings don’t matter, but if they are opposed to the facts they are just that: irrational feelings.

                    Apartheid is by no means limited to a minority oppressing a majority, if you take a look at apartheid in the USA and even Palestine, you’ll notice that a majority of white people was/is oppressing and segregating a minority. It’s really just about segregation and applying different laws to people depending on the group they are part of.

                    Looking at Europe, you can even find what I’d call Apartheid in Ireland, where the Irish people have been segregated and oppressed by the British for hundreds of years, before Ireland gained partial independence.

                    Now, me saying something like “raciam against white people doesn’t exist” is just a fact. But again, I am happy to agree with you that I was wrong if you bring up one single example of systemic racism against white people, really anywhere in the world. I am not aware of any place where white people would have a harder time just because they are white (which is what happens to people of color all around the world by the way)