Yes, you’re right, I called it Apartheid/segregation, and it really just was segregation, not based on race, which makes it no Apartheid. A critical thinker like you most likely knew in advance that an irish person could pass as a british at any time if they wanted, when you listed Ireland as an example.
You really got a big gotcha here, but I am still waiting for you to make any meaningful point. It’s not hard to make no mistakes when writing if you only write one liners.
So again,are you interested in having an honest discussion, or are you just here to troll?
and it really just was segregation, not based on race, which makes it no Apartheid
But if we look into it, we find:
In 1836, young Benjamin Disraeli wrote:
[The Irish] hate our order, our civilization, our enterprising industry, our pure religion. This wild, reckless, indolent, uncertain and superstitious race have no sympathy with the English character.
Wait, so that means… this wasn’t a gotcha at all? It really was Apartheid?
Drat that wascally warl0k3…
I want to drop the facade for a moment here and clarify something important: I’m not doing this to troll you, I’m doing this to point out to you that you don’t know what you’re talking about. You just don’t. You’re arguing from your heart, and I’m sure you’re a decent person despite this, but what you are spouting is utter bollocks.
When I said, wayyyy back when, that I didn’t have the patience to educate you? This is what I meant. You’re either ignorant of or forgetting about basic concepts, like how race is a purely social construct that has changed wildly (even in the past few years). You’re trying to argue too many things, and you don’t have a coherent point or a firm basis on which to base your supercilious exhortations on the nature of racism. An example would be the idea that the irish could pass as british: well yes/no, the black irish faired much better than than redheads for this exact reason, but redheadedness being the defining trait of the irish race is a stigma that survives to this day (yes, the term is not an irish term - but I don’t know of another one to describe that segment of the population). And fair play to you for getting it wrong, it’s a complex topic and ignorance isn’t shameful (just the denial of ignorance) and all that. But still.
The reason I keep picking at just one issue (Apartheid, in this case)? I told you I was only throwing you a bone on a single issue. There’s just too much wrong in what you’re saying, and I just don’t want to deal with all of it. Please understand that I’m not trying to be mean, I just sincerely do not have any interest in trying to teach you when you’re so damn hostile. It’s just no fun for me.
It’s really funny how you claim you have no patience educating me, yet are on a reply spree to pick out singular points, without making any of your own.
i am still waiting for you to tell me how saying that americans of asian descent eat more rice than americans of european descent, which was how all of this started.
Now I am sure that you just enjoy this back and forth as much as I do, but I have to tell you that you’ve just a bad faith actor, which makes you no more than a troll.
And while I appreciate the elaboration of yours, which I agree, I did not study the Irish oppression more than a few hours in school, but it does again show that you’re really just in for a quick gotcha, not at all for the sake of the argument. And again, I have a good time chatting with trolls, so don’t feel bad for me, I am having a blast.
No, I’m still not interested in educating you beyond that one single topic (and some meta-commentary). If you cant understand how ascribing behavior based solely on racial groups is racist, there’s no hope for you. If you want to discuss the one topic that I’ve already clarified I’m game to discuss feel free, but otherwise you can just keep wearing the mask of performative disinterest and repeating your affirmations in the bathroom mirror of internet commentary for as long as you like. I really really am not doing this.
Yes, you’re right, I called it Apartheid/segregation, and it really just was segregation, not based on race, which makes it no Apartheid. A critical thinker like you most likely knew in advance that an irish person could pass as a british at any time if they wanted, when you listed Ireland as an example. You really got a big gotcha here, but I am still waiting for you to make any meaningful point. It’s not hard to make no mistakes when writing if you only write one liners.
So again,are you interested in having an honest discussion, or are you just here to troll?
And here we have you again:
But if we look into it, we find:
Wait, so that means… this wasn’t a gotcha at all? It really was Apartheid?
Drat that wascally warl0k3…
I want to drop the facade for a moment here and clarify something important: I’m not doing this to troll you, I’m doing this to point out to you that you don’t know what you’re talking about. You just don’t. You’re arguing from your heart, and I’m sure you’re a decent person despite this, but what you are spouting is utter bollocks.
When I said, wayyyy back when, that I didn’t have the patience to educate you? This is what I meant. You’re either ignorant of or forgetting about basic concepts, like how race is a purely social construct that has changed wildly (even in the past few years). You’re trying to argue too many things, and you don’t have a coherent point or a firm basis on which to base your supercilious exhortations on the nature of racism. An example would be the idea that the irish could pass as british: well yes/no, the black irish faired much better than than redheads for this exact reason, but redheadedness being the defining trait of the irish race is a stigma that survives to this day (yes, the term is not an irish term - but I don’t know of another one to describe that segment of the population). And fair play to you for getting it wrong, it’s a complex topic and ignorance isn’t shameful (just the denial of ignorance) and all that. But still.
The reason I keep picking at just one issue (Apartheid, in this case)? I told you I was only throwing you a bone on a single issue. There’s just too much wrong in what you’re saying, and I just don’t want to deal with all of it. Please understand that I’m not trying to be mean, I just sincerely do not have any interest in trying to teach you when you’re so damn hostile. It’s just no fun for me.
It’s really funny how you claim you have no patience educating me, yet are on a reply spree to pick out singular points, without making any of your own.
i am still waiting for you to tell me how saying that americans of asian descent eat more rice than americans of european descent, which was how all of this started.
Now I am sure that you just enjoy this back and forth as much as I do, but I have to tell you that you’ve just a bad faith actor, which makes you no more than a troll.
And while I appreciate the elaboration of yours, which I agree, I did not study the Irish oppression more than a few hours in school, but it does again show that you’re really just in for a quick gotcha, not at all for the sake of the argument. And again, I have a good time chatting with trolls, so don’t feel bad for me, I am having a blast.
No, I’m still not interested in educating you beyond that one single topic (and some meta-commentary). If you cant understand how ascribing behavior based solely on racial groups is racist, there’s no hope for you. If you want to discuss the one topic that I’ve already clarified I’m game to discuss feel free, but otherwise you can just keep wearing the mask of performative disinterest and repeating your affirmations in the bathroom mirror of internet commentary for as long as you like. I really really am not doing this.