Until the US Congress declares a war, we’re committed to a limited armed intervention. They’re calling it a war. The Iranian authorities don’t consider it being policed or limitedly intervened. For them, it’s a war.
Yankee logic: thirteen thousand air strikes is not a war because of some legalist mumbo jumbo. How dare they call it a war! If they do, they shouldn’t play sports.
They shouldn’t play sports with in our nation since they’re at war with us. If they were only playing games in Canada or Mexico, that would be a different situation.
Didn’t you just claim that it is not a war? Fucking clown.
Regardless, this isn’t how any of this works. Sports have always been detached from politics. If your country can’t comprehend that, then you’re not fit to host a major sporting event.
To the USA, it is not a war. To Iran, it is a war. We’re not at war with them but they’re at war with us. If Iran was hosting the World Cup, we might send people there even though they’re a rival nation. If they say it’s a war, why should they send their people to us?
And, you’re absolutely right. We shouldn’t have all these people flooding in, slamming our underfunded infrastructure, and causing a situation where ICE is likely to pull some BS.
You’re not at war, eventhough you bombed Iran 13000 times and killed thousands of civilians. Just a little excursion as your Führer put it? And you’re one of the more intellectual and reasonable specimens of your nation, I take it?
I don’t pretend to be reasonable. I’m an American. For 250 years, America has been a nation built on external violence for resources. There’s only been a dozen years of peace in the nation’s history, and only one or maybe two of the conflicts we were party to were outside our control. The Monroe doctrine built this country into a better place to live, where resources were always available for a price. This is just another step along that road. “War is a Racket” is absolutely correct - but like all successful rackets that maneuver the law in their favor, it’s incredibly profitable. A resource that we want exists and it is not under our control. Standard American foreign policy is to first offer to buy it, then threaten to take it, and then to take it by force.
It’s not reasonable. But it’s what defines this country.
Fair enough, to a point. But I’d diverge on a few things.
First, America has essentially all resources on its own soil. There’s no need to fight for them overseas. And yet, America is fighting over resources. The point isn’t to consume these resources domestically, it is to control what’s available to others. You can write that up as normal behavior for a superpower that just has got to do what it’s got to do, but I really don’t think it is. The United States would be safer and more prosperous if it had played its soft power cards for the past 25 years instead of throwing them out and playing cowboy.
I’d also push back against the idea that America is a good place to live, especially as a consequence of military doctrine. It is true that America’s military doctrine has made it absurdly rich, but honestly, what good is that when it’s almost entirely fiat and nominal? Yes you’re getting some essentially free stuff in exchange for – let’s just call it “patrolling the seas” – from manufacturing countries like Germany and China, but you could manufacture all of that if you had a real economy instead of an economy based on coercion and an inflated military industrial complex.
Don’t get me wrong, the USA has a lot of wonderful and unique aspects, and it is genuinely the best in several regards. However, would any sane person choose to live in Seattle over Copenhagen? The wealth you have translates to cinderblock and plaster make-believe castles, endless roads so your kids need to wake up early to catch the bus because they can’t walk to school, 300 types of bread at Walmart and nothing is actually edible, lonely dinners at the drive-thru, no access to nature, can’t even collect rainwater on your property in many states.
My point is that Belgium doesn’t run around bullying the world and it’s a better place to live than the USA. Malaysia doesn’t bully the world, doesn’t have every resource imaginable, and it still has a ton to offer to its citizens. The USA has had a hand in providing security to these places, and that’s a whole different discussion, but you’ve got payment for services rendered and then some, and somehow you’ve squandered that wealth on promoting a few to acquire their own fiefdoms, fucking Natural Teeth Implants and normalizing trucks for daily use.
Regardless. Hosting the World Cup is not what’s causing your dilapidated infrastructure. It’s a badly optimized system that picks the least efficient way to do things in the name of freedom, all while imposing laws and requirements on citizens that are the opposite of freedom. Now the Iran team is going to the US to play football with “165” written on their jerseys, in memory of the kids that fucking ChatGPT murdered on the orders of Pete Hegseth. The world is never going back to Pax Americana, which means that the tap is closing on free manufactured goods from Germany and China, and I don’t see how building data centers in the desert is going to help you produce your own.
Until the US Congress declares a war, we’re committed to a limited armed intervention. They’re calling it a war. The Iranian authorities don’t consider it being policed or limitedly intervened. For them, it’s a war.
I agree with you, and you are technically correct which I guess is rubbing people the wrong way.
Well, they can go rub someone else’s rhubarb then.
Yankee logic: thirteen thousand air strikes is not a war because of some legalist mumbo jumbo. How dare they call it a war! If they do, they shouldn’t play sports.
They shouldn’t play sports with in our nation since they’re at war with us. If they were only playing games in Canada or Mexico, that would be a different situation.
Didn’t you just claim that it is not a war? Fucking clown.
Regardless, this isn’t how any of this works. Sports have always been detached from politics. If your country can’t comprehend that, then you’re not fit to host a major sporting event.
To the USA, it is not a war. To Iran, it is a war. We’re not at war with them but they’re at war with us. If Iran was hosting the World Cup, we might send people there even though they’re a rival nation. If they say it’s a war, why should they send their people to us?
And, you’re absolutely right. We shouldn’t have all these people flooding in, slamming our underfunded infrastructure, and causing a situation where ICE is likely to pull some BS.
You’re not at war, eventhough you bombed Iran 13000 times and killed thousands of civilians. Just a little excursion as your Führer put it? And you’re one of the more intellectual and reasonable specimens of your nation, I take it?
I don’t pretend to be reasonable. I’m an American. For 250 years, America has been a nation built on external violence for resources. There’s only been a dozen years of peace in the nation’s history, and only one or maybe two of the conflicts we were party to were outside our control. The Monroe doctrine built this country into a better place to live, where resources were always available for a price. This is just another step along that road. “War is a Racket” is absolutely correct - but like all successful rackets that maneuver the law in their favor, it’s incredibly profitable. A resource that we want exists and it is not under our control. Standard American foreign policy is to first offer to buy it, then threaten to take it, and then to take it by force.
It’s not reasonable. But it’s what defines this country.
Fair enough, to a point. But I’d diverge on a few things.
First, America has essentially all resources on its own soil. There’s no need to fight for them overseas. And yet, America is fighting over resources. The point isn’t to consume these resources domestically, it is to control what’s available to others. You can write that up as normal behavior for a superpower that just has got to do what it’s got to do, but I really don’t think it is. The United States would be safer and more prosperous if it had played its soft power cards for the past 25 years instead of throwing them out and playing cowboy.
I’d also push back against the idea that America is a good place to live, especially as a consequence of military doctrine. It is true that America’s military doctrine has made it absurdly rich, but honestly, what good is that when it’s almost entirely fiat and nominal? Yes you’re getting some essentially free stuff in exchange for – let’s just call it “patrolling the seas” – from manufacturing countries like Germany and China, but you could manufacture all of that if you had a real economy instead of an economy based on coercion and an inflated military industrial complex.
Don’t get me wrong, the USA has a lot of wonderful and unique aspects, and it is genuinely the best in several regards. However, would any sane person choose to live in Seattle over Copenhagen? The wealth you have translates to cinderblock and plaster make-believe castles, endless roads so your kids need to wake up early to catch the bus because they can’t walk to school, 300 types of bread at Walmart and nothing is actually edible, lonely dinners at the drive-thru, no access to nature, can’t even collect rainwater on your property in many states.
My point is that Belgium doesn’t run around bullying the world and it’s a better place to live than the USA. Malaysia doesn’t bully the world, doesn’t have every resource imaginable, and it still has a ton to offer to its citizens. The USA has had a hand in providing security to these places, and that’s a whole different discussion, but you’ve got payment for services rendered and then some, and somehow you’ve squandered that wealth on promoting a few to acquire their own fiefdoms, fucking Natural Teeth Implants and normalizing trucks for daily use.
Regardless. Hosting the World Cup is not what’s causing your dilapidated infrastructure. It’s a badly optimized system that picks the least efficient way to do things in the name of freedom, all while imposing laws and requirements on citizens that are the opposite of freedom. Now the Iran team is going to the US to play football with “165” written on their jerseys, in memory of the kids that fucking ChatGPT murdered on the orders of Pete Hegseth. The world is never going back to Pax Americana, which means that the tap is closing on free manufactured goods from Germany and China, and I don’t see how building data centers in the desert is going to help you produce your own.