An on-demand recording of our May 20 event is available. Today, at a special event on our new Microsoft campus, we introduced the world to a new category of Windows PCs designed for AI, Copilot+ PCs. Copilot+ PCs are the fastest, most intelligent Windows PCs ever built. With powerful new silicon capable of an incredible...
But they DO want that sweet sweet customer data. If you think there’s not going to be some sort of user data and behavior profiling bullshit going on at the very least, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Actually it is pretty easy. You can either run it in a VM or you can run it in podman.
For a VM, you could install virtual manager and then Debian. From there you need to of course do the normal setup of SSH and disable the root login.
Once you have a Debian VM you can install ollama and pull down llava and mistral. Make sure you give the VM plenty of resources including almost all cores and 8gb of ram. To setup ollama you can follow the guides
Once you have ollama working you can then setup openwebui. I had to use network: host with the ollama environment variable pointed to 127.0.0.1 (loopback)
Once that’s done you should be able to access it at the IP of the VM port 8080. The first time it runs you need to click create account.
Keep in mind that a blank screen means that it can’t reach ollama.
The alternative setup to this would be podman. You theoretically could create a ollama container and a openwebui container. They would need to be attached to the same internal network. It probably would be simpler to run but I haven’t tried it.
Its only partly local and i bet only because the alternative is to expensive.
Just look at the kinda crap windows pulls today.
I thought i had disabled pretty much all the spyware, them on the microsoft online dashboard i found
full machine specs
A list off all applications installed
edge search history
Btw, did you know that anything typed in start/search now counts as a search in edge? I wander whats behind that move.
In other words i understand much of the ai may function on a local level but it be fully integrated with cloud systems and you can safely assume a full record of your prompts and uses is stored on microsoft servers and delivered to bill gates for reading before bed.
Depends on your browser extensions, you can even pretend to be a phone if you want. ;)
And also not the same level of detail as microsoft is just lifting from your hardware like motherboard model and manufacturer, how many drives, how they are formatted and how much space is used on each of em.
What i meant is, what good reason is there for local search to always count as a Bing internet search.
If i wanted to look up something online id open up an internet browser with the search engine of my preference.
Spamming my local search results with online rubbish is the opposite of value, even micrsoft devs acnowledge this which is why microsoft powertoys has macbook style local searchbar thats way faster and better at finding your files and offline.
I know most people are over AI, as am I, but if we’re gonna have it, I’m glad to see there’s a focus on it being local
It isn’t though
Copilot is a cloud service
The goal is to make it work on device in the next 4 years. That’s the point of an “AI PC”
Why would Microsoft want that? They make money from the cloud. There is a reason they want you to move to Azure.
They want you to foot the electric bill for the LLM processing, they’re still going to collect your data. Double-win for MS!
Because they don’t want to pay for running AI in the cloud.
But they DO want that sweet sweet customer data. If you think there’s not going to be some sort of user data and behavior profiling bullshit going on at the very least, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
It’s not going to be private lol
The MS implementations won’t, but once they build the capability, we can make our own
That’s not how that works. Also we have our own. Its called ollama
How would one set this up with ollama?
On which platform?
Basically you need three things. You need the ollama software, a LLM model such as mistral and a front end like openwebui.
Ollama is pretty much just a daemon that has a web api apps can use to query LLMs.
Linux, specifically nobara (a gaming focused fedora distro) for me
Do you have any guides you would recommend?
Actually it is pretty easy. You can either run it in a VM or you can run it in podman.
For a VM, you could install virtual manager and then Debian. From there you need to of course do the normal setup of SSH and disable the root login.
Once you have a Debian VM you can install ollama and pull down llava and mistral. Make sure you give the VM plenty of resources including almost all cores and 8gb of ram. To setup ollama you can follow the guides
Once you have ollama working you can then setup openwebui. I had to use network: host with the ollama environment variable pointed to 127.0.0.1 (loopback)
Once that’s done you should be able to access it at the IP of the VM port 8080. The first time it runs you need to click create account.
Keep in mind that a blank screen means that it can’t reach ollama.
The alternative setup to this would be podman. You theoretically could create a ollama container and a openwebui container. They would need to be attached to the same internal network. It probably would be simpler to run but I haven’t tried it.
Its only partly local and i bet only because the alternative is to expensive.
Just look at the kinda crap windows pulls today.
I thought i had disabled pretty much all the spyware, them on the microsoft online dashboard i found
Btw, did you know that anything typed in start/search now counts as a search in edge? I wander whats behind that move.
In other words i understand much of the ai may function on a local level but it be fully integrated with cloud systems and you can safely assume a full record of your prompts and uses is stored on microsoft servers and delivered to bill gates for reading before bed.
just fyi, every website you visit has access to this, it’s not private
Depends on your browser extensions, you can even pretend to be a phone if you want. ;)
And also not the same level of detail as microsoft is just lifting from your hardware like motherboard model and manufacturer, how many drives, how they are formatted and how much space is used on each of em.
It searches for everything you search so that by the time you press enter, it already has the result of the last one, hence seeming faster.
What i meant is, what good reason is there for local search to always count as a Bing internet search.
If i wanted to look up something online id open up an internet browser with the search engine of my preference.
Spamming my local search results with online rubbish is the opposite of value, even micrsoft devs acnowledge this which is why microsoft powertoys has macbook style local searchbar thats way faster and better at finding your files and offline.
Well, it does search online too. That the implementation is atrocious is a different thing.
Yeah, that is a big deal for privacy reasons. There is no reason one needs to send such information to companies.