• ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    Dat cough he had in North Carolina today jeeeeesus I’ve had a cough like that before and the cold that goes with it is an ass kicker.

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      3 months ago

      Cope, neolib your corpse-led country will fail if led by either of those two stains

      330 million citizen and only those two were viable?

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    3 months ago

    This Biden protection is crazy. we need a candidate who actually stands a chance against Trump. this is insane. It’s 2016 all over again.

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        3 months ago

        Biden literally hung his mouth open like a brain dead zombie. He lost his train of thought multiple times… He said “we beat Medicare” ffs. Wtf does that mean?? I want to defeat Trump, but Biden is not going to accomplish that. Change the Democratic candidate before it’s too late.

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      3 months ago

      Any other candidate just wouldn’t have the name recognition. Millions of Americans just vote for the incumbent regardless of who it is

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        1 month ago

        Hey now that we have the benefit of hindsight I just wanted to show you how wrong you were and how confident you can be that youre right when you’re so so wrong please be a little more open-minded going forward and listen to people😏

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      3 months ago

      I think it’s more insane to say that Biden doesn’t have a chance against Trump when he’s already beaten Trump once, which is why he’s President Biden.

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        1 month ago

        Hey buddy how does it feel to have been so wrong? You thought the idea that biden didnt havw a chance was insane but even Biden dropped out because he knew he didn’t. I just wanted to remind you how confident you were that you were right when you couldn’t have been more wrong 😏 😜

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          Except I wasn’t wrong. If he had stayed in I believe he would beat Trump. He only dropped out because he could see the party infighting, and dropped out to try and unify the party. But, had he remained in the race, he ultimately would have beaten Trump. The only way we would know if I had been wrong was if he had stayed in the race and then lost, otherwise I still believe in the end he would gave defeated Trump.

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            1 month ago

            😏

            So let me get this straight the Democratic party due to a wide range of polls that indicated Joe would lose to Trump decided to pressure Joe to step down. Joe ultimately agreed to step down because of it. they all believed he would lose but you know better than them all with all of their resources and connections to the presidental race itself. Lmao sure dude

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              Polls 5-6 months out of the election are not indicative of how people are actually feeling. In the end, when the election actually happened, I believe people may not have been excited to vote for Biden, but I believe people would have definitely not wanted Trump to win. As I said, Biden already defeated him once in part because of that reason.

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      Agree, this astroturfing is insane. I can’t help but think it’s a coordinated campaign, because Biden was very clearly senile in that debate, if not something worse. Democrats can still win if they let Biden retire and choose someone who can rebut Donald Trump.

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    Who’d be the dream choice for american democrats? Hillary Clinton? Michelle Obama (who’s not even a politician) with Barrack as advisor or VP?

    I get that this is Lemmy and most people here are communists who’ll say Bernie Sanders, and that’s fine too, but wouldn’t he turn away a bunch of voters?

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      Bernie would easily beat Trump. Do I think the DNC would let him? Not without INTENSE pressure. More likely, the DNC would probably go with a Democrat governor from a swing state. At worst, they will run Clinton who already ran and lost to Trump in 2016.

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    I don’t like Joe Biden, I’ll never forget the Neoliberal bullshit he did with the Republicans in the 90s we are still suffering from further eviscerating the safetynet to the draconian war on people suffering addiction. He’s one of the OG former opposition party members the Reagan Revolution convinced to take the bigger bribe checks from Wall Street than Unions could ever match, today’s neoliberal(D) party.

    That said, I voted for him in the last election, and I will again out of harm reduction. He has improved on policy, but l even if he didn’t, the American people do not get a vote on whether or not to elect a senile President this cycle.

    You can have any President you like, as long as he’s senile. If you vote, we’ll get a senile President. If you don’t, we’ll get a senile President.

    The question is whether you want senile and gleefully cruel®, or just senile(D). I’ll take just senile.

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        He said, with no examples or evidence of any kind.

        Edit the way "vote’ is used in that sentence isn’t so much a ballot transaction…it’s more a “choice”.

        Biden or trump WILL be the next president.

        This sucks but cannot be avoided.

        Edit edit choose left right or abstain, it’s all the same. A senile president will be the next president

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          Biden or trump WILL be the next president.

          Both are over the mean life expectancy, neither is in particularly great health, and it’s another six months until the inauguration.

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            Sure. But the chances of both of them croaking in the next 6 months are very low.

            Biden has the whole US government at his back, highly trained and motivated to not let the sitting US president die.

            Trump, well, terrible bastards seem to never die.

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              But the chances of both of them croaking in the next 6 months are very low.

              The way Biden looked with a simple cough? And with the physical burden a continuous high stakes campaign puts on a candidate?

              Wouldn’t even be the first time a President campaigned himself into an early grave. Harrison, Taylor, Harding, and FDR all leap to mind.

              Biden has the whole US government at his back, highly trained and motivated to not let the sitting US president die.

              All the SS agents in the world can’t save you from COVID

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    As an european, what scares me , it is that Biden is the ACTUAL president. If he suffers from dementia, who is really in charge now. Who takes the decisions? Usa are involved in at least two major wars and dictate the policy to the europeans. Who is responsible of that? If biden cannot be a candidate , why it is an actual president?

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      You should watch how you talk. We do more than any of you countries. We send more aid and supplies to Ukraine to Israel than any of you fucks and your golden leaders you love so much. We train and run war simulations with allies in hopes of preventing war. Our economy is doing the greatest it has. All that with a ‘dementia riddled’ leader. You should wish you accomplish what that man does.

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    This whole night was so many layers of exhausting, but probably not for the reasons you think… No rational, serious person was expecting Biden to Willy Wonka front somersault into this debate? it was going to be what this was, the only true surprise was probably the volume of his voice (which they chalk up to a cold, okay fine, I guess) and actually how well he did quickly processing and responding to trump’s gish gallop and unchecked stream of consciousness mistruth firehose with little help from the impotent moderators for the majority of the night.

    The people in this country, in their immediate reaction to this debate, demonstrate that they just fundamentally lack the focus, empathv and frankly basic intelligence to process the substance of this or any debate. On average, we respond solely to voice pitch, tonality, body language and facial expressions, like a still developing toddler… Or a dog.

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          It’s always fun when people suddenly forget that Biden has a stutter. I’m not even 40 and, perfectly healthy, sometimes can’t finish a fucking sentence and just move on to the next point. The only reason people don’t say I have dementia is because I don’t look old enough to hurl the accusation.

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            How many stuttering acting presidents do you remember?

            Also Biden isn’t just having a stutter. It was clear he lost his train of thought multiple times, like destroying medicaid, constantly mixing thousands, millions, billions and trillions or his talk about abortion trimesters.

            This sounded like they gave him elaborate sentences to remember beforehand and he butchered them all, because of not learning them by heart and not fully grasping what they actually mean.

            Meanwhile Trump was just doing Trump and Biden came wholly unprepared for that. Repeating what Trump said with “the idea that … is ridiculous” is just repeating what he said, further giving it agency. How could they be unprepared for Trump being Trump after 8 years of him already?

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              Sounds like you’ve never socialized with others who have a stutter. Instead of understanding how different mental/physical impairments affect people, you’d rather just make assumptions and baseless claims that confirm your own biases. Biden’s stutter is a well documented ailment that has affected him, in similar ways, for a long time - we just got to see it when he was clearly under the weather.

              You can factually disagree with Biden’s policies, but to create this elaborate scenario out of whole cloth and purposely ignore Trump’s own verbal missteps just tells all of us all we need to know about why you commented.