Caring deeply about my message exactly every 4 years is truly inspiring

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      I just want to chime in and say thank you for editing your post after finding new information. If everyone in the world was like you, this place would suck a lot less.

        • Dadd Volante@sh.itjust.works
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          4 months ago

          You shouldn’t trust Snopes at all anymore. They literally said that Trump never said “good people on both sides”.

          Which Trump bragged about in the debate a few days later.

          I don’t trust them at all, anymore

              • Optional@lemmy.world
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                4 months ago

                Yeah, a couple of problems with it though:

                First, he DID say, after the “Jews will not replace us” march, and intentional murder of a counter-protestor that there were “very fine people on both sides.” So he DID say that. The statement that he did not say that is false. Note:

                Editors’ Note: Some readers have raised the objection that this fact check appears to assume Trump was correct in stating that there were “very fine people on both sides” of the Charlottesville incident. That is not the case. This fact check aimed to confirm what Trump actually said, not whether what he said was true or false. For the record, virtually every source that covered the Unite the Right debacle concluded that it was conceived of, led by and attended by white supremacists, and that therefore Trump’s characterization was wrong.

                Secondly, Snopes has apparently incorporated the trump administration’s walk-back of that to say yeah he didn’t know they were all nazis.

                While I disagree with that analysis, it is laid out plainly that that’s how they arrived at the true/false determination of what this demented sociopath meant.

                Which is - imo wrong, but fair. Identifying an address that matches the address of alleged shooter is simply comparing two empirical values. So while I disagree with the ‘both sides’ analysis I think there’s room for them to claim it was false, unlike the donation address matching the shooter’s address.

  • mommykink@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    4 months ago

    Everything to me just points to this being a very confused and disaffected kid who wanted to do something memorable with his life. I genuinely don’t think there was much consideration beyond that. He was 20 years old, were your political beliefs as concrete and nuanced when you were that age as they are today?

    • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
      1·
      4 months ago

      I was 19 for 9/11. It solidified where I stood pretty well. I’d say 20 year olds today could easily be just as galvanized, especially with the way social media has changed things since then.

    • Korne127@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      were your political beliefs as concrete and nuanced when you were that age as they are today

      …yeah. To be fair, I’m 22, but I’ve been in the board of a local political party for over 3 years now. You could maybe make that argument for 16, but honestly, even then I was at political demonstrations.

      • ruckblack@sh.itjust.works
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        4 months ago

        I’d argue that your experience is an exception and not the rule. Most teenagers aren’t nearly so politically involved. And at 29, I’m a very different person than when I was 20.

        • III@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          4 months ago

          I’d argue that maybe the world for kids today isn’t the same as it was for you 10 years ago and maybe you aren’t the authority on it.

          • ruckblack@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            4 months ago

            Does the comment I replied to’s personal anecdote make them the authority on the political involvement of teenagers? Did I ever claim to be the authority? We’re having conversation, relax

            • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
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              4 months ago

              You relax, they were just making a point too. You did use your anecdote in a way that implied a broad sweeping point. Calm down.

    • ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml
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      4 months ago

      Summary since I haven’t seen it in the comments yet: they cracked his phone. There was some sort of high level briefing and some info got leaked:

      1. He either had or just googled some kind of depressive disorder (could potentially relate to motive if he was bipolar and having a manic episode or something).

      2. He had pictures saved of the schedules for both Trump and Biden’s national convention appearances. So he could have been trying to go after both of them, potentially.

      • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Usually after 18 is when most bipolar people have their first major episode. There’s really no access to mental healthcare for someone like him. You’re lucky if you can see a p-doc for ten minutes. Usually you’ll see a primary care physician first and there’s a good chance that they’re going to prescribe you antidepressants, which is like throwing gas on the fire. It takes months or years of trying different medications to find a combo that works for you and that requires a support system of people who can tell how you’re doing and you have to have a willingness to be miserable for an indefinate period of time. Certain meds will make you feel better for a month or two and then they’ll gradually stop working. People get frustrated and stop taking medication because it makes them feel like shit. Dropping meds completely is the worst thing, it’s like dumping a 100 lb backpack that you’ve been carrying for months. You feel like you can jump ten feet in the air, nobody can stop you.