• davepleasebehave@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    to paraphrase a Frankie Boyle joke: the Americans will invade your country and then years later make films about how hard it was for the soldiers

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      22 days ago

      The people starting wars and the ones fighting them are not the same. I’m pretty sure that being in war is pretty fucking traumatic to the vast majority of the soldiers independed of wether they’re on the attacking or defending side.

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        22 days ago

        You joined the army of a military power that regularly invades other countries. Being on the attacking side willingly in an unjust war and then complaining about your mental health for something you willingly signed up for is huge dumb energy. It’s never “just the decisionmakers”.

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          22 days ago

          Most of the Russian soldiers in Ukraine for example are not professionals and don’t want to be there. Same applies to many US soldiers in Vietnam, they were drafted. There’s plenty of examples like that.

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            22 days ago

            Russia doesn’t have conscripts in Ukraine. They literally can’t send them. They recruit volunteers by giving them lifechanging cash. The only conscripts used are in Kursk since they allow them to be used to defend Russia.

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              22 days ago

              Allegedly yes but they had a partial mobilization and those people are not volunteers and don’t want to be there. That’s why they’re surrendering to Ukranians in such a great numbers.

            • Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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              22 days ago

              I’ve got a microphone here if you want to drop it. C==>-

              Unfortunately, it also looks like a knob.