• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    Unfortunately, those states still did not go to Harris, and large numbers of people in those states sat out the election because they didn’t see fascism as enough of a threat to take seriously.

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      I know they still didn’t go to Harris but my point is that the story being told that people didn’t turn out for Harris just kinda doesn’t add up when you look at the only states that actually matter. Popular vote doesn’t mean shit. It’s just that people turned out more for Trump.

      If you have some kind of study that shows every eligible voter in the swing states (or any state, frankly) that didn’t vote, would have voted for Harris and not Trump, I’d be happy to see it.

      The dull, sad reality is that America, as a whole, wanted this.

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        Well the replicants gained 500000 ish votes and the dems lost 10 million compared to the last election.

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          As I said, the popular vote doesn’t matter. Harris got more votes than Biden in many of the key swing states. The votes that Dems “lost” were almost entirely exclusive to states that don’t matter. As in, Harris could have had all those same Dem votes and still lost the electoral college.

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        If you have some kind of study that shows every eligible voter in the swing states (or any state, frankly) that didn’t vote, would have voted for Harris and not Trump, I’d be happy to see it.

        Wouldn’t need to be every one. If Dems were more disillusioned at a rate of 4-3 (ie for every 4 more [non]votes Harris gets, Trump gets 3 more votes), only 10% more of the electorate turning out would’ve been enough to shift Pennsylvania. Considering the extensive efforts at demoralizing left-leaning voters, I don’t think a 4-3 ratio is absurd.

        But nothing is entirely clear. You are correct that if you’re looking for facts, we’re still waiting for others to compile and analyze the data. God help us all.