• I Cast Fist@programming.dev
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    8 hours ago

    Ha ha ha, yeah, sure. Bluesky won’t defeat xitter, at best it’ll just be the “next thing” once xitter finally finishes getting rid of most of its users, which I guess will take more than 4 years from now.

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      3 hours ago

      It’ll only defeat X if corporations and specifically media and sports entities start using it.

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      6 hours ago

      The great thing about BlueSky is how under-the-radar its flown for the last few years. Virtually no advertising. No legions of bot accounts spamming with invites and generic attention baiting posts. No |>u33y N |3io blowing up my mentions. No enshittification, because its just a primitive clone of the original Bird Site.

      The more popular it gets, the less likely that’ll last. BlueSky won’t defeat Twitter until it becomes Twitter.

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        My issue with BS is it took VC money from crypto bros.

        What do we think will happen when they come looking for their returns on investment?

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        5 hours ago

        It will almost certainly become Twitter as it was created by the Twitter founder. The only difference being that it will become the Twitter from before Musk took over. Which is a massive difference.

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          The only difference being that it will become the Twitter from before Musk took over.

          Dorsey is just as emotionally stunted and socially reactionary as Musk. He simply isn’t as wealthy.

          BlueSky has thrived not because Dorsey crafted it into a purer vision, but because he’s neglected it and allowed the user base to have their way.

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            4 hours ago

            I never liked Twitter to begin with so I’m not one to defend him. My preferred one is Mastodon, but generally I don’t like the format to begin with. At any rate, I’ll still take pre-musk Twitter over Xitter any day.

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              Things were better before they got worse, sure.

              But the problem in these systems is the trade off between centralization (consolidated control and monolithic content) and federation (poor navigation/petty administrative feuds/less quality content). Switching from Twitter to BlueSky relieves you from the current admin’s fuckups, but you’re still stuck in a flawed system.

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        6 hours ago

        I guess they don’t consider it bluesky defeating twitter if twitter is commiting suicide. Sounds like pedantry to me.

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            6 hours ago

            The key factor in Digg’s demise was a flawed design that was too easily abused by users. Digg had no controls over user verification, so individuals could game the system by creating multiple accounts to artificially inflate the number of votes for their own content. Because Digg displayed content in order of popularity, most visitors saw and voted only on content that was already popular. This system created a vicious cycle in which a small number of dedicated users could push their own content to the front page and thereby gain more followers, allowing them to more easily repeat the process. As Digg grew, so too did its problems related to power-hungry users cheating and gaining undue influence over content.

            Sounds like the same problem that every centralized social media ecosystem suffers from. The big difference between Digg and Reddit was that Reddit successfully monetized the “push me to the front of the queue” algorithm rather than engineering around it.