If only that were true! That does help a bit, but it acts only as a community mute rather than more like an instance defederation or a user block would. You’ll see ML users brigading posts and random users with the most off the wall takes imaginable - I think bc they get used to the style of moderation inside their echo chamber and so have difficulties leaving it behind. Tbf after the USA elections a lot of that seems to have died down.
Tbf, there are people on ML who I’ve enjoyed conversing with, so it’s not all one way as the meme seems to convey. However, it is quite a noticeable pattern where 9 times out of 10 the comments that are the most batshit insane that I’ve ever seen (and don’t come from hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml) are from a user on lemmy.ml. Make of that what you will - I used to argue strongly against that, but the weight of continued observation has caused me to switch sides on that argument.
I see where you’re coming from. If they’re not defederated and those posts are going to pop up anyway, then I can control it I see those posts or not. In my experience (same as yours), the vast majority of ml posts aren’t worth reading anyways so why not filter them out?
Yeah it’s not nothing that you can filter the posts from those communities, but it sure would be nice if you could filter the users as well. Which I can do on PieFed, and the Sync and Connect apps (but not the base web UI or apps like Voyager) allow true instance blocking for Lemmy, or Lemmy.cafe, quokk.au, and dubvee.org have all defederated from lemmy.ml (along with hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml).
Even better could be to keep the users but put a label warning that the instance is known for being a bit troll-y 🧌 and crazy - and surely if they wanted they could put labels onto our accounts in return like “warning this user is from the West so is deluded by all the capitalist pig nonsense 🐖 🐷💩🐽, remember that they don’t know the True ML communiist thoughts that only us true believers do”.
And even then I wonder how many of those people actually trolling from ML are simply hexbear alts - several have outright admitted that, citing how their ML account predated their HB one, yet acknowledging all the same the choice to use the ML one after the HB one was defederated with, to continue the same activities that they did before that, translation: no means yes to them. Either way the admins allow it and so really who cares so long as their freedom to speak does not forcibly overwrite my willingness to not have to listen.
Instance Filters! Couple of clicks and it’s like they never existed.
Honestly, that’s just sticking your head in the sand. Newcomers aren’t going to have those filters. Their Tankie BS should be called out every time.
If only that were true! That does help a bit, but it acts only as a community mute rather than more like an instance defederation or a user block would. You’ll see ML users brigading posts and random users with the most off the wall takes imaginable - I think bc they get used to the style of moderation inside their echo chamber and so have difficulties leaving it behind. Tbf after the USA elections a lot of that seems to have died down.
Tbf, there are people on ML who I’ve enjoyed conversing with, so it’s not all one way as the meme seems to convey. However, it is quite a noticeable pattern where 9 times out of 10 the comments that are the most batshit insane that I’ve ever seen (and don’t come from hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml) are from a user on lemmy.ml. Make of that what you will - I used to argue strongly against that, but the weight of continued observation has caused me to switch sides on that argument.
I see where you’re coming from. If they’re not defederated and those posts are going to pop up anyway, then I can control it I see those posts or not. In my experience (same as yours), the vast majority of ml posts aren’t worth reading anyways so why not filter them out?
Yeah it’s not nothing that you can filter the posts from those communities, but it sure would be nice if you could filter the users as well. Which I can do on PieFed, and the Sync and Connect apps (but not the base web UI or apps like Voyager) allow true instance blocking for Lemmy, or Lemmy.cafe, quokk.au, and dubvee.org have all defederated from lemmy.ml (along with hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml).
Even better could be to keep the users but put a label warning that the instance is known for being a bit troll-y 🧌 and crazy - and surely if they wanted they could put labels onto our accounts in return like “warning this user is from the West so is deluded by all the capitalist pig nonsense 🐖 🐷💩🐽, remember that they don’t know the True ML communiist thoughts that only us true believers do”.
And even then I wonder how many of those people actually trolling from ML are simply hexbear alts - several have outright admitted that, citing how their ML account predated their HB one, yet acknowledging all the same the choice to use the ML one after the HB one was defederated with, to continue the same activities that they did before that, translation: no means yes to them. Either way the admins allow it and so really who cares so long as their freedom to speak does not forcibly overwrite my willingness to not have to listen.