• houstoneulers@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    lol, i literally point out how your retort is flawed, and you bull head through it anyways.

    What’s funny but somehow escapes the terminal basement dwellers is that the majority of productive women do not worry about this b/c they understand how stats work. But bigots are never smart enough to even understand basic stats.

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      2 hours ago

      you didn’t cite any actual statistics, meanwhile throughout this thread people have been citing stats that prove you wrong. violent crime between men and women is not equal, and women are disproportionately victimized by it and men disproportionately cause it.

      and yes, i’m fully aware these statistics compare violence by gender. no one is saying that because the majority of violent crime is committed by men, that the majority of men are violent criminals. you’re being obtuse and missing the point on purpose.

      with that said, the number of women in total affected by violence, sexual violence especially is indeed high anyway. even if it isn’t all men, it happens enough that all women have to live in fear.

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        It’s not hard to find how low the crime stats are. FBI posts them yearly. It’s called google.

        Obv you don’t get how to make a statistical argument if you bull headedly stuck with it. In the end, while you’re busy preoccupied by the gender distraction, a good amount of us are furthering the real divide, class. And well, while you’re still repeating your tired, pointless arguments, productive people (men and women) are leaving you behind…happily.

        Simply put, you can’t say “too bad men are murderers tho” or any other derivative when you use a stat that doesn’t actually support that argument. But again, bigots aren’t the smartest lot.

        Have a nice night.

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          i actually posted the FBI statistics in my reply. you didn’t. you didn’t even fucking read them i bet.

          you can’t liberate the proles without the liberation of marginalized groups among them. stop pretending to be a comrade in class struggle when you’re just a misogynist and opposed to what we stand for.

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            Yea, but the stat doesn’t support your argument lol

            Also, your assumption of my misogyny is completely unfounded. However, your misandry/bigotry is an full display. It’s all good though. Your bigotry will hold you back for as long as you hold onto it. I, on the other hand, will continue to work with my colleagues, men and women. We work well together b/c we actually understand how to dissect an argument and how racists/misandrists/misogynists/bigots lie with stats…like you’re doing now.

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              it literally does. you don’t even understand my argument.

              good luck having women work with you though, i’m sure they’ll love how you downplay their experiences with sexual violence because “not all men are bad”

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                No, I get your argument. It doesn’t prove what you think. Plain and simple.

                You cant make a comparative argument and claim it’s a population inference b/c the comparison could either be devoid of any scale/sampling consideration and/or the comparative bar could be set so low that it’s misleading. Both are well known issues in statistical analysis as well as human biases that are well documented.

                But sure, go ahead and keep believing what you will. It’ll only negatively affect you. Why? B/c most ppl don’t like being hypocrites, and to behave like you is super hypocritical as well as pretty blind.

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                  the FBI crime statistics were good enough for you a couple replies ago, but now you’re concerned about biases? why does this only now fail to meet your criteria? why should the burden now be on me to prove the authenticity of the source you told me to find? i have more sources that all suggest the same disparity of violent crime between women and men if you have good reason to believe these particular statistics are misleading, but do you?

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                    Yes, b/c the stats I’m talking about (the percentage of men that are actual criminals) actually prove my point.

                    You used a comparison between two groups as supporting argumentation for a population inference. It’s a nonsequitur fallacy. I believe you that men are more often the perp, but that doesn’t mean all men are murderers or violent in any other way. That’s what someone is implying when they say things like “too bad men are murderers tho”. There’s literally no qualifier to that…it specifically aims at men.

                    Enjoy your night.