• Hyperreality@kbin.social
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    TBF you can turn on an ICE car and let it warm up a bit before you drive it. Some ICE cars also allow you to remotely pre-start or there are after market options so you can use an app to do exactly that. Hell, Russian far east they simply leave the car on for the cold months.

    It’s just that it’s incredibly wasteful/polluting.

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      10 months ago

      Some ICE cars also allow you to remotely pre-start

      But you cannot do that in the garage (unless you like huffing exhaust fumes).

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        10 months ago

        And if you spend a couple hundred bucks on insulation, you don’t need to preheat anything in your garage either.

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        The majority of garages I’ve seen have a garage door so the fumes don’t just build up in the garage.

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          10 months ago

          Which means that your home then has increased heat loss because the garage door is open.

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            10 months ago

            Eh, I don’t even have a garage, and my place stays warm just fine. It’s just a few minutes

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          10 months ago

          What’s special about the door or do you mean just opening it? If the latter, that still won’t prevent it from collecting at the ceiling and you’d better hope you remembered to open the door.

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      10 months ago

      It’s just that it’s incredibly wasteful/polluting.

      Which actually makes it illegal in some countries, too

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        10 months ago

        Is illegal in my city. You’d never know it by walking around in the morning.

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      Welcome to my morning walk with the dogs every morning where its colder then 35F. Every fucking car in my neighborhood does this bullshit and when there’s little to no wind, all that exhaust doesn’t go anywhere and just sits at ground level where I get to breathe it in for an hour. It stick at the back of my throat for the rest of the day. Add to that snowblowers after even less than an inch of snow.

      I can’t fucking wait for EVs to gain market share. Its fucking disgusting what my neighbors find acceptable.

      The only enjoyment I find in this situation is people that back into their garages then warm up their car while still parked in their garage, spewing that exhaust into there instead of outside. I’ll never understand what brain logic leads them to that solution but it’s the same people doing it every morning.

      Edit: I should add that the other great thing about people doing this is the rise of car thefts since some of these people also just turn their car on, leave the keys in the car, leave it unlocked and go back indoors because it’s cold

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        10 months ago

        Yup, this is why the practice of idling a car to heat it up is rightfully illegal in many places.

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      10 months ago

      IIRC you can fit an ICE vehicle with an electric engine block heater which will use mains electricity to heat the water and circulate it through the engine. So you run an extension cord out to your car, leave it plugged in and turn it on half an hour before you leave.

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        10 months ago

        Yep it’s what people in northern Sweden have been doing for probably at least 40 years now.