Not only is Trump leveling science funding at NASA, like he did with the National Science Foundation, but look closely at the budget. Beginning next year at 800 million and by 2030, 3.5 billion (nearly 20% of its budget), NASA is required to work towards “Commercial Moon and Mars Infrastructure and Transportation”. The ultimate subsidy for the commercial space sector.

They also eliminated STEM engagement program, which provided funding for the next generation of scientists to participate in NASA opportunities. I can’t wait for all this greatness Trump has been preaching to arrive.

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      Not sure about what? The US is certainly getting replaced, and we’ll all be better off if the Great Satan isn’t the center of scientific progress.

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        we’ll all be better off if the Great Satan isn’t the center of scientific progress.

        No, I wouldn’t be better off living in a country where women are arrested and killed for appearing in public without a silly garment covering their head.

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          You must be young. The Iranians and other parts of the middle east have referred to us since at least the 80s, and probably before.

          When we brought a bunch of Nazis in after WWII and installed them in positions of importance (like heading NASA by Wernher von Braun) I think we gave them a pretty reasonable argument.

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              Don’t worry, you’re not wrong about China — what’s going on in the U.S. is just more televised.

              You know, because of the ‘freedoms’ and whatnot.

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              Honestly, operation paperclip doesn’t even make it into the top 10.

              Consider this, we could have put them on trial, but they were low down enough to get some jail time and then get sent back to Germany at worst. We could have let the Russian have them, or we could have just executed them. All in, bringing them here and using their expertise isn’t the worst thing.

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          Because you seem confused, “Satan” here would be America’s insane and unstable government body who is openly trying to dismantle scientific and medical research/funding that could improve our futures and the world imho <3

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          I sincerely encourage you to check out documentaties about china that dont start with genocide. You will see that today its used as red scare.

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              What you’re doing is called a strawman.

              Of course one should not ignore crimes against humanity. I’m saying we are reducing people, countries and systems based on what agenda we have today.

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                Lol no a strawman is presenting a different argument than what’s being discussed. I said nothing of the sort and just called you out for your bullshit tankie thoughts. The USA isn’t some bastion of freedom, but to act like china or russia is better by ignoring the shit they’re currently doing is full on tankie ignorance.

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                  check out documentaties about china that dont start with genocide

                  here is the argument

                  you just willfully ignore the shit they do

                  this is a strawman. I never said I’d want to ignore anything. You brought that up and tried to fight me for it. That is literally the meaning of a strawman. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

                  So no, you’re trying to push red scare and that is at best naive or at worst deliberate antisocialist propaganda.

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            My country is in serious trouble but at least we never ran over protesting college students with tanks and then washed them down the drains.

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              Israel runs over people with its US tanks and it’s the 51st state, so, let’s not throw stones in this big shitty glass house?

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                Thanks for the whataboutism. Israel can go fuck itself too, they are worse at the moment.

                I don’t need everyone else to be perfect to level valid criticism.

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                  Israel can go fuck itself too, they are worse at the moment.

                  The US is directly responsible for the innocent people that Israel kills. It’s the 51st state. They are so fundamentally connected and Israel is so deeply reliant on the US for economic and military and legal connections that it is impossible to separate the two.

                  Israel would probably cease to exist if the US didn’t give them unlimited backing and support.

                  You know what that means? That means it’s not fucking “”“whataboutism”“” to bring up Israel! Israel’s crimes are US’s crimes.

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              Its totally okay to criticise crimes against humanity, as I said. But china hate is not rooted in reality. They did wrong, as did everyone else.

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                Please note the very real situation I mentioned above. That’s reality whether China wants to try and scrub it from history or not. The fact that they won’t even let their citizens discuss it is telling enough. They deserve the hate.

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                  I read that and I am aware that this has happened. I never said it didnt happen, neither did I say that it is somehow not horrendous. I’m asking you to think about the elephant in the room: horrendous things are done regularly by most developed countries. Why is china the big bad? I’m okay to learn something new, how about you?

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                    Where did I say they were THE big bad? I’m ok with hating all authoritarian regimes including the one I live under.

                    Why are you so big on defending their image?

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            china that dont start with genocide

            Yes is sucks for the Chinese that their government keeps committing genocide and they don’t have any way to end that by choosing their own leaders. Except for our lucky friends in Taiwan.

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              keeps committing genocide

              1. Can you prove that?
              2. Have you bothered to check out anything else about china?