• Ice@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Sure they can, that’s called a revolution - in that case those who caused the disorder get called “heroes” and “freedom fighters”.

    If they get smushed by the current authorities coming back in force, then they get written into the history books as “criminals”, “rebels” or “insurrectionists”.

    Winner writes history and all that.

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      People don’t just instantly forget the moment after an event ends, especially now.

      The point I was making, is that bringing in cops and the national guard to beat protesters does not restore order to a crisis caused by ICE kidnapping people. It is an escalation that will very likely be matched if CA hasn’t totally forgotten their past. Which they haven’t.

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        3 hours ago

        Read up on the '92 LA riots. Do you think US authorities are willing to use more, or less force today than then? Do you think LA civilians today have a larger, or lesser capacity for violence?

        Thankfully I don’t think US authorities are anywhere close to PRC or Russia levels of force usage against civilians, but I would bet on the badges coming out on top if it came to a chicken race. That’s not to say it wouldn’t get ugly.

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          3 hours ago

          What you’re not understanding is that quashing a protest with force doesn’t make the anger just go away.

          Thankfully I don’t think US authorities are anywhere close to PRC or Russia levels of force

          The US is only trying to end Habeas Corpus, cracking down on free speech, personal and social freedoms, deploying military units in the streets, planting secret police in protests, and is currently kidnapping, disappearing, and sending people to foreign labor camps without trial while wearing masks and not giving any identifiable information… All while supporting and funding an ongoing internationally-recognized genocide.

          Maybe you should be doing the reading…

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            33 minutes ago

            What you’re not understanding is that quashing a protest with force doesn’t make the anger just go away.

            Please don’t try to guess what I think, understand or don’t understand, because you are arguing against a straw man of your own making.

            Given that your account is 4 days old I’m going to leave it there. I have no interest in engaging someone who may be a bad-faith troll. We can have another talk if you’re still around in a month or so.

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              24 minutes ago

              LMAO. If you ignore the point I’m making in 3 consecutive comments, I’m going to assume you don’t understand. You should take your own advice, you literally told me to go read about the riots!

              And surely you’ve heard about about lemm.ee and slrpnk.net? No?