• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    I think you’re confused, liberals aren’t left. The commenter you are replying to is complaining about liberals, ie “moderate” right wingers, failing to understand far-right wingers.

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        Someone hearing for the first time that Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher are staunch liberals.

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            2 months ago

            Liberals -> want the means of production to remain privatized aka capitalism
            Leftists -> want the means of production to be publicly owned aka socialism

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              That presumes the binary is focused on economy when most nations are still debating freedom from the government and thus liberalism should be the start of the left.

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                This presumes the liberal view that liberalism is truly “freedom from the government” whatever that means(it’s not) and that such a thing is a requirement for a leftist position (it’s not)

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                  And you are presuming the discussions being had are about capitalism when they are still debating the role of the government in private ownership.

                  It’s a eurocentric position. It’s odd how many “leftists” fall into this.