no Google
I do not believe you.
Arch Linux
Okay, fine. A rare sighting.
There are dozens of us. And we are used to reading manuals, since we first installed our system.
They did it before the Internet was even a thing, my friend.
I was there. I was one of them. I just chose to use tools to make my life easier. Call me a sell out, I guess.
Nope, not a sell out. Just a person using the tools at hand. You can’t just live in the past. You did it without Google back then because there was no Google and you had to use what you had to use. Now you use Google, because again, you have to use what you have to use. In the end, I personally only care about the outcome.
I just chose to use tools to make my life easier
If you don’t then I’d call you stupid. Keep doing that, friend. That’s the best way actually. You want your life easier so you can put out great work.
Google went live in 98? First Arch in 02?
I’m talking about developers in general before even Linux was a thing. I thought that was obvious in my comment. Guess not, I need to work more on my English.
Your English is fine. The same words often evoke different mental images from one person to another. Sometimes I have trouble distinguishing when to embrace literal meanings and when to go with the general gist of words. Thanks for addressing my comment, a gentle reminder for me.
Thank you 🫡
I remember using man pages when I was contributing to a C open source project back in the day.
It is extremely easy to use the internet without using google.
Yeah, otherwise it would have been very hard before they came into being.
Remember when the internet was more than like 5 websites?
Gen Z doesn’t.
My favorite thing about StumbleUpon was basically opening me up to a whole Internet without touching Google, and it showed me so many fun things. RIP.
Jumpstick.app comes pretty close though.
But he went out of his way to install man pages on arch? Probably a narc.
Aren’t they there by default?
If you’re using arch, you shouldn’t need man pages. Because you use arch, BTW.
Wait, what? Arch has more comprehensive documentation than just about any other distro.
My cycle goes : think think think, draw, think, draw, think, write code for a day or 3.
I use an ide or a text editor. never use that other stuff.
Is psychopatl an Aztec insult I don’t know about?
Someone cropped the last line? What a sociopatl
(For any nerd wondering, the name of the language is Nahuatl but I guess Aztec language is more recognizable for the sake of the joke lol)
Type of dinosaur I believe
It cut off the h.
Props for living up to your username
Yesterday I spent about 2 hours trying to get ChatGPT to walk me through the install process of putting Arch on a 2011 MacBook Air. It just wouldn’t work and the further along we got the harder it seemed and I really thought that using AI was necessary. I finally gave up and read the Arch Wiki and had it installed in under 45 minutes.
That tracks. The AI push is extraordinarily premature. It makes sense that capitalist idiots see mass layoffs as improvement, but rational people do not.
I tried reading the gadget bridge instructions for my watch. Could not get a straight answer on getting the authorization key (I’m a noob), wasted 2 hr. o3 gave me perfect instructions that got it done in 20 minutes. Ya win some ya lose some.
Yeah. It is really good at some things and bad at other things. I used to have a good sense for it but the arch install threw me off.
I find it’s good at giving regex commands from natural language and vise versa. It’s really helped me get a grip on that aspect of learning (neo)vim.
Yay! Cencorship! I spent an extra 3 seconds focusing on the word psychopath trying to figure out what went wrong instead of reading it like a normal word. Isn’t that so much better than offending an algorithm with the letter ‘h’?
Psychopatl
Wasn’t that one of the Incan gods?
You are thinking of the one they used to design the common keyboard layout, Qwertycoatl.
I’m partial to Tomatl and Ahuacatl
You saw that but not devloper? Buncha amateurs.
Could also just be a non native English speaker.
Is this supposed to be a joke or have we truly gotten to the point where … coding in a terminal via like hyprland or w/e, without relying on an what is basically an annoying tutorial character from a video game that acts as an assistant…
This is psycopathy?
Having actual competence in one’s field?
Oh god we’re all doomed, they’ll soon be alternating between worshipping us demigods, or burning us at the stake.
EDIT:
Welp, I’m sure thats a good sign, lol.
But how do you remember the syntax???
/sarcasm
What’s that / mean?
Tone indicators, check internet usage section. Hope this helps!
I use:
- DuckDuckGo
- Neovim
rustydusty IdeaPadArchNixOS btw
I don’t read man pages but I read documentation.
Am I also a psychopath?
I decided to try Cursor today (first time using any coding assistant) to refactor my sloppy NixOS config, and I’m really impressed to far. My config is so much cleaner and very well documented. It even has automated backups, a
README.md, andCHANGELOG.mdnow!The cost has been ~$20 so far (I’m still tinkering with it).
ETA: I also use
ArchNixOS btw
Edit 2: I asked it “how might I streamline my deployments a little?” It wrote some nicely polished scripts that use deploy-rs, and wrote some nice documentation for it.
The script didn’t work on first run, so I added the console output to the context and asked “what went wrong here?” It debugged and fixed the script, and updated the docs.
I think this has been the most frictionless NixOS experience I’ve had so far
I still remember my Masters degree in distributed computing. C++ in vi (not even vim), monochromatic display, 36 computers working together to give me a bunch of SIGSEGV.
vi crew represent
ed is the standard editor ;-)
I still use emacs
This indecent has been reported
Your disk quota shall be reduced by 100MB before redirecting you to
ed
Vim ftw!
Helix crew 🖐️
As another Helix user, I’ll gladly accept the high five 👏
Helix FTW!
If it was man pages then they were likely scripting not coding. 🤷♀️
Edit: Obligatory “Actchuuuallllyyy*”
“Actually”… man pages also include information about the standard Unix C functions.
I had an internship 15 years ago where I was forced to write C++ with no internet access. I had to use a programming manual and man pages.
25 years ago I was writing code in a paper notebook, sometimes while riding the bus. The only computer access was at college and it was easier to work through the code on paper and then quickly transcribe it once I got on campus.
Yeah, things are a bit more complicated now, but in other ways they are sooooo much easier. The fact that people are using chatGPT to ‘program’ is just crazy from my perspective.
