• Madison420@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    Yes the way they defined is use requires someone to know the intent of the speaker which means they know them or they’re simply assuming and my assertion is that isn’t substantially different then assuming someone doesn’t know something because of their sex.

    And you can call someone bigoted for saying something in a way that makes you feel uncomfortable solely based on their sex. I don’t see the difference.

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        21 days ago

        I’d love to know how seeking clarification implies your my or anyone else’s ability to say what they want. I know I haven’t said or knows that at worst all I want is to know how making assumptions based on sex isn’t bigoted. I get how condescending to someone because they are a woman is bigoted, can you see how assuming someone is a bigot rather than ignorant based solely on their sex is by definition bigoted?

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          17 days ago

          Max comment depth reached. Bringing this back up to where it was first relevant:

          It’s by definition discriminatory because it’s a statement of discrimination no one said anything about it being abusive. It’s not just not necessarily derogatory whereas mansplaining always is.

          To call a behavior “misogynistic” is to express a low opinion of it, or detract from the character of the person exhibiting that behavior.

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            17 days ago

            Ok?

            No. Look at the definition.

            feeling, showing, or characterized by hatred of or prejudice against women : of, relating to, or being a misogynist

            Context implies at times a low opinion though that is not express to the meaning nor does it imply the word is derogatory.

            Discriminatory ≠ derogatory.

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              17 days ago

              Context implies at times a low opinion

              I can’t think of a single example of a time where a woman would be assessing a man’s behavior towards her, deem it to be misogynistic, but not as a low opinion.

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                17 days ago

                Sure, now is that the only way to use that descriptor? No.

                Can you find a way to use “mansplaining” that isn’t using the term derogatorily? No because it’s an insult that happens to be a descriptor while misandrist or misogynist are descriptors that can be insults.

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                    17 days ago

                    An example of what using the phrase misogynistic without it being derogatory or your weird little setup?

                    My entire point is you cannot use mansplaining without it being an insult thusly it’s a sexist slur.

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      16 days ago

      you’re comfortable calling women bigots for calling out one of the most common forms of misogyny they experience.

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        16 days ago

        Lol that’s your proof I’m “anti-woman”, neat. It’s good to know you’re only pursuing arguments you’ve already agreed aren’t what you’re claiming they are.

        Go away troll.

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              15 days ago

              So you were lying. I never said that. What a surprise!

              Woman-hater and a liar. What else will you reveal yourself to be!

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                15 days ago

                If that’s what you need to feel better about yourself, sure.

                Ah so you’re lying.

                I dunno what I’ll reveal about myself but you certainly revealed that you’re a sexist and generally a bigot.

                To you apparently equality in phraseology is anti woman, super logical.

                Answer the question, am I a woman. Define woman.

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                  15 days ago

                  I wonder what started you down this path of hating women so much.

                  I’m gonna bet it’s mommy-issues.