• butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Just FYI, you in Europe should spend more time learning how not to freak out the moment you invite a relatively small amount of Muslim people of color to live among you as refugees and start pushing boats back into the sea to drown. We watch your society start to break apart the moment it drifts even a tiny bit away from white ethnostates. Hungary and Poland fell before the US.

      Don’t get me wrong, we’re a flaming dumpster fire right now, but it gets very tired very quickly listening to you people look down your noses at the US like your shit doesn’t stink as you teeter to and from the brink of far right parties taking power every 3 years on a platform of “no Muslims in Country X.” You’re not wrong, but glass houses my guy. You judge us, but the rest of the world judges us both.

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        9 months ago

        And how’s Europe and such doing on gay rights, women’s rights, diversity, privacy rights, health science, climate science, wealth equality, economic policy, territorial threats…

        One comparable out of many doesn’t make a glass house.

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          9 months ago

          I think the point was that the far right is close to winning in Europe. If they do, you can kiss all those things goodbye, just like us.

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          9 months ago

          Well that depends, how about you go ask TURF Island or Hungary or most of literally everything south or east of Germany. If you’re gonna pretend France and Germany are all of Europe then you should at least be comparing to like, idk, just NYC and CA or something. Again, reeeeeeeal glass heavy house over there.

          https://rainbowmap.ilga-europe.org/

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      9 months ago

      I’m an American who moved to the Netherlands in July of '22. I spend a lot of time going back and forth. My then fiancé, now my wife, was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis during the pandemic. Given the obvious price difference for medication to treat the disease, I decided to move in with her instead of her coming to the US.

      I find it disheartening to see what the rest of the world thinks about Americans up close. I am competently multilingual enough to hold conversations. I have to admit now that I understand why other natively born Americans pretend that they’re from Canada outside of the U.S.

      Despite my embarrassment about the body politic and discourse from my country, I find that the the same authoritarian, isolationist, and anti-intellectual mind-viruses that permeate through society in the United States (especially in rural communities) have a beachhead here in Western Europe. Either that or they’ve always been here to begin with. To me, the difference is that the scale is much smaller.

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        I find that the the same authoritarian, isolationist, and anti-intellectual mind-viruses that permeate through society in the United States (especially in rural communities) have a beachhead here in Western Europe

        America’s worst export.

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          Bold to claim we had to export it. This is like someone saying “yeah, we’ve got black mold, but it obviously came from our neighbours, and has nothing to do with the raw sewage we’ve left in the basement for the last eighty years!”

          Literally none of those things first gained traction in the Americas. As a US citizen, I think we need to be doing a general strike with riots in the streets and shutting down interstate trade with our bodies marching on the highways.

          But you need to see to your own houses, because while the mold is running wild over here, it didn’t start with us.