• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    You make an ultimatum, you better be ready for the consequences. You bet that removing support from Israel would get the Dems more votes than it would lose them, net. The Dem campaign disagreed - rightly or wrongly, it’s uncertain, but probably wrongly.

    Now, because of that game of chicken you played, Donald Trump is discussing how bigly he’s going to help Israel genocide Gaza and the West Bank, millions are projected to die from the aid cuts already executed, immigrants are being rounded up in concentration camps, and the death penalty is being discussed for LGBT folk.

    Welcome to the consequences.

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      21 days ago

      Why is the blame placed on individuals that would be lucky if they made up more than 1% of the population that makes up the “online leftist”?

      Seriously. How is the only opposition party not the one that decided they would “play chicken”? You blame people for playing “chicken” but ignore the actual political party with money and organization that clearly decided to play chicken themselves. Hell, they’re the ones that literally decided to play that game.

      Somehow the criticism and blame is placed on unorganized “online leftist”.

      It wasn’t the online left. It was the vast majority of normies that thought about their vote for all of 30 seconds and said : “Yeah, I don’t like all the dead babies I keep hearing about. I’ll stay home or vote Trump i guess”

      Stop pretending it’s some cringe online leftist. You’re delusional.

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        Seriously. How is the only opposition party not the one that decided they would “play chicken”?

        Holy fucking shit, for the millionth time, more than one actor can be guilty at once

        Am I discussing quantum physics to you people or something?

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      You act like Biden wasn’t also complicit or selling bombs to Israel. In fact, this started under him and his failure to act is why this was even a dilemma to begin with. So now im supposed to pretend that if we elected a dem he wouldnt have done the same thing biden was already doing. Lol

      If I don’t want to genocide people or be a party to war crimes with my tax dollars, is there any substantial difference between parties?

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        21 days ago

        You do realize that support of Israel is a scale and not a boolean, right?

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          21 days ago

          If your answer to “do you support genocide?” is anything other than “no”, it’s a deal breaker for me.

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            Cool, so you would have supported not a single candidate in the history of the US. I’m sure all the Black folk campaigning for civil rights would have been thrilled.

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              Glad we agree that all US presidents have supported genocide.

              The black community I am part of knows that civil rights was not won at the ballot box but on the streets. Just read Malcolm Xs Message To the Grassroots. He outright tells it like it was and rightly calls out MLK as being nothing more than a figurehead, worried more about fundraising than anything else.

              But do go on and tell me more about how the DNC wants my people’s freedom while simulateously locking us up and using us as pawns.

              Heres an interesting example if you just want to go one at a time. Did you know the NRA and the democrats actually agreed on gun control in California? But it was only after members of the Black Panthers started open carrying. Interesting huh?

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                The black community I am part of knows that civil rights was not won at the ballot box but on the streets. Just read Malcolm Xs Message To the Grassroots. He outright tells it like it was and rightly calls out MLK as being nothing more than a figurehead, worried more about fundraising than anything else.

                Jesus fucking Christ.

                Heres an interesting example if you just want to go one at a time. Did you know the NRA and the democrats actually agreed on gun control in California? But it was only after members of the Black Panthers started open carrying. Interesting huh?

                Do you not remember who was governor of Cali at the time.

                I guess facts are inconvenient when you have narratives to peddle.

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                  21 days ago

                  The Mulford Act which i referenced was passed by 34 democrats and 28 republicans.

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                    Championed and pushed by a Republican governor. But you keep peddling your incredibly bizarre and repulsive “MLK Jr. was just a figurehead interested in fundraising and did nothing for civil rights” pov. Malcolm X said let us try the ballot, but it seems you would prefer to support Nazis.