• Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    and aircraft carriers attacking their enemies that are blockading them.

    “Israel couldn’t do it if the Houthis weren’t suppressed!”

    Fucking lol.

    the point is that they deployed multiple carrier strike groups to protect shipping to Israel, that’s pretty direct support. The attacks have been making an impact.

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      “to protect shipping to Israel”

      Golly gee, it’s sure a good thing that shipping to Israel is what the Houthis have been targeting all this time, right?

      … r-right…?

      The Houthis are Iranian proxies whose primary concern is serving Iranian foreign policy interests in disrupting international trade that has very little to do with Israeli shipping and resulted in fucking Egypt sending forces along because of how damaging its been to trade through the Suez Canal (very little of which goes to Israel).

      Not only that, but by your own argument, the Houthis aren’t suppressed, which raises the fucking question of why Israel seems to be carrying on with its genocide unimpeded (PROTIP: it’s because the Houthi blockade targeting random ships in international waters in order to disable the least important of Israel’s ports is not actually all that important to Israel except in delivering an easy PR win to Israel)

      Even more astounding is that the Houthis are, themselves, literally genocidal, yet they get unabashed bootlicking from supposed leftists over costing Israel a few billion dollars. How many billions of dollars more, do you think, will Trump be giving Israel compared to Harris? But apparently, critical support for pro-genocide lunatics who reduce Israel’s budget by a few meager bil only counts for the Iranian proxies, and not the anti-fascist coalition candidate.

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        At this point the US is the greater evil, I don’t care about demonizing its enemies.

        Multiple US aircraft carriers were sent to protect Israels least important port from the second-poorest country in the region. Under Biden.

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          At this point the US is the greater evil,

          Yes, because you elected the literal Nazis! Soon, they’ll be executing LGB folk just like holsum critically supported Iran and the Houthis do!

          Multiple US aircraft carriers were sent to protect Israels least important port from the second-poorest country in the region.

          To protect international trade, since the Houthis have targeted very few Israeli or Israel-bound ships, instead cratering shipping along the Red Sea entirely. But hey, at least they had a nice little excuse for ‘leftists’ like you to bootlick them while they murder LGBT folk and starve out dissidents! Golly gee, wouldn’t it be terrible if you were supporting some fascist group like Israel? Good thing you’d never do that, right?

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            Oh no, cratering international shipping and hurting free trade opposing a genocidal settler state 🎻

            I’m an anarchist lol why do you think I would care about free trade

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              Oh no, cratering international shipping and hurting free trade opposing a genocidal settler state 🎻

              Nothing like increasing the price of goods and starving some folk in third world countries to show the Israelis who’s boss (by giving them a rounding error in their budget) 😊

              I’m an anarchist lol why do you think I would care about free trade

              Apparently you don’t give a shit about genocide or executing LGBT folk either.

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                (by giving them a rounding error in their budget) 😊

                It took several months of several carrier groups as well, don’t forget. They’re just doing what they’re capable of, which is clearly not enough to warrant that level of response.

                Apparently you don’t give a shit about genocide or executing LGBT folk either.

                That’s literally what Israel is doing with multiple US aircraft carriers and endless ammunition supporting it. I oppose Israel because I’m directly implicated in that one. Just because I want to see Israel and the US lose doesn’t mean I approve of everything their enemies do, per the original quote from you about ‘popular front’

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                  It took several months of several carrier groups as well, don’t forget. They’re just doing what they’re capable of, which is clearly not enough to warrant that level of response.

                  Except the carrier groups haven’t managed to suppress the Houthis or restore trade. There isn’t an ‘intensification’ of the Houthi campaign possible; they’ve already squeezed the Red Sea trade route to the point where most shipping just avoids it. They’ve maxed out - this is the limit of their contribution. But hey, anything to keep simping for fascists who murder LGBT folks, right? As your friendly neighborhood Houthis say on their fucking flag, “A Curse Upon The Jews”!

                  That’s literally what Israel is doing with multiple US aircraft carriers and endless ammunition supporting it. I oppose Israel because I’m directly implicated in that one. Just because I want to see Israel and the US lose doesn’t mean I approve of everything their enemies do, per the original quote from you about ‘popular front’

                  So you’re willing to forgive genocide and murdering LGBT folk in one case, but not the other. Wow, it’s good that you’re so principled, it would be really awful if you were some kind of hypocrite who, furthermore, managed to support things getting worse for everyone while claiming it was some kind of principled stand!

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                    I wasn’t being asked to vote for the Houthi though was I? They aren’t being directly funded by my taxes like the US government and by association Israel.

                    They’re just acting in opposition to our terrorist settlers, my support of their opposition doesn’t extend to every action they take, quoting you:

                    Yes, under the same principles as WW2. I would probably be telling people that supporting the British Empire or the USA or the Soviet Union was non-negotiable despite all being imperialist genocidal states.

                    Supporting enemies of the US and Israel is following the same principles as supporting the enemies of Nazi Germany without necessarily approving of everything they do.