The only leftists who need to get fucked are the ones who don’t believe in harm reduction. Who don’t believe in buying time for marginalized demographics to not get murdered AND buying time for us to organize instead of offering up our necks to the fucking secret police.
The rest of them are my comrades. I want capitalism gone. I want neocolonialism abolished. I want racial and ethnic justice in this fucking country, and in the world.
I just don’t think that helping Nazis get elected is, in any way, a conscionable or helpful means of achieving any of that.
Yeah. I guess that raises the question of “Who offers the peace branch first?” and “In what circumstances is it offered?”
Will abstaining leftists be willing to offer a peace branch and vote for an anti-fascist candidate, even one that disagrees with their wider views, if abstaining against fascists as a moral act is normalized?
Likewise, would centrist ghouls be willing to offer a peace branch and vote for a progressive primary candidate, even one that disagrees with their wider views, if voting as a personal sacrament instead of a strategic decision remains normalized?
The fighting I’m doing here is on the actual, practical actions we need to be doing, and, specifically, the ones that are controversial here (see: nearly a thousand comments in this meme about abstaining being bad, Jesus Christ), rather than the ones that are generally accepted (like “FOR GOD’S SAKE WE NEED TO ORGANIZE A GENERAL STRIKE”, which has a much less controversial mien in this community).
Can we actually reduce infighting without addressing the issue of the willingness to compromise for strategic purposes in a still very right-wing country? Or will promises to stop fighting just mean we remain divided and isolated and pursuing different strategies which none of us are willing to ‘compromise’ our own ‘purity’ of action to support, since in this case the cessation of infighting is ‘agree to disagree’ rather than resolving the fundamental issue of being unwilling to cooperate which this meme is criticizing, leading none of our left-wing attempts to reach critical mass, so to speak, and the fascists continuing to dominate society and murder whomever they want to?
Will abstaining leftists be willing to offer a peace branch and vote for an anti-fascist candidate, even one that disagrees with their wider views,
You mean just like we have for decades now? Yeah, we might just do that. It sure as fuck isn’t going to be the neoliberals who can’t even bring themselves to endorse the Democratic candidate for NY mayor.
Abstaining leftists didn’t change the outcome, apathetic Americans did. And why are Americans apathetic? One look at the Democratic establishment makes that crystal clear.
The only leftists who need to get fucked are the ones who don’t believe in harm reduction. Who don’t believe in buying time for marginalized demographics to not get murdered AND buying time for us to organize instead of offering up our necks to the fucking secret police.
The rest of them are my comrades. I want capitalism gone. I want neocolonialism abolished. I want racial and ethnic justice in this fucking country, and in the world.
I just don’t think that helping Nazis get elected is, in any way, a conscionable or helpful means of achieving any of that.
Idk man, if that’s the case I think we could all use less leftist infighting that we are known for.
Yeah. I guess that raises the question of “Who offers the peace branch first?” and “In what circumstances is it offered?”
Will abstaining leftists be willing to offer a peace branch and vote for an anti-fascist candidate, even one that disagrees with their wider views, if abstaining against fascists as a moral act is normalized?
Likewise, would centrist ghouls be willing to offer a peace branch and vote for a progressive primary candidate, even one that disagrees with their wider views, if voting as a personal sacrament instead of a strategic decision remains normalized?
The fighting I’m doing here is on the actual, practical actions we need to be doing, and, specifically, the ones that are controversial here (see: nearly a thousand comments in this meme about abstaining being bad, Jesus Christ), rather than the ones that are generally accepted (like “FOR GOD’S SAKE WE NEED TO ORGANIZE A GENERAL STRIKE”, which has a much less controversial mien in this community).
Can we actually reduce infighting without addressing the issue of the willingness to compromise for strategic purposes in a still very right-wing country? Or will promises to stop fighting just mean we remain divided and isolated and pursuing different strategies which none of us are willing to ‘compromise’ our own ‘purity’ of action to support, since in this case the cessation of infighting is ‘agree to disagree’ rather than resolving the fundamental issue of being unwilling to cooperate which this meme is criticizing, leading none of our left-wing attempts to reach critical mass, so to speak, and the fascists continuing to dominate society and murder whomever they want to?
You mean just like we have for decades now? Yeah, we might just do that. It sure as fuck isn’t going to be the neoliberals who can’t even bring themselves to endorse the Democratic candidate for NY mayor.
Abstaining leftists didn’t change the outcome, apathetic Americans did. And why are Americans apathetic? One look at the Democratic establishment makes that crystal clear.