• UsernameHere@lemy.lol
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    2 months ago

    They are either trying to trick people into not voting against the GOP or they have been tricked themselves.

    “Both sides are the same” has been a bad faith argument I’ve heard from conservatives for decades.

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      2 months ago

      or they have been tricked themselves.

      Worse. They think martyrdom and purity politics are preferable to making any sort of actual difference. They have to keep their souls pure, you see.

      It’s religion for the irreligious.

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        “vote blue no matter who” is peak martyrdom politics.

        Do you know why Mamdani won the primaries? Because he actually promises change. The argument wasn’t to never vote Democrats. The argument was to punish them unless they produce a decent candidate.

        If Harris wasnt punished, the DNC that is fighting Mamdani by and large would have been to strong and most likely had prevented Mamdani.

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          “vote blue no matter who” is peak martyrdom politics.

          “Martyrdom politics is when you want to prevent fascists from murdering people instead of embracing it in the hopes that it will cause the people’s hearts to spontaneously fill with l’Internationale after seeing how nobly marginalized groups are murdered!”

          Uh, okay.

          Do you know why Mamdani won the primaries?

          Because NYC has enough progressives to elect a progressive in a Dem primary, and progressives decided to actually turn out for once?

          If Harris wasnt punished, the DNC that is fighting Mamdani by and large would have been to strong and most likely had prevented Mamdani.

          Jesus fucking Christ.

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            The Democrats support Fascist commiting genocide in Palestine.

            Did you follow any of the primary debates? How all the other DNC candidates sucked up to Israel how they would go there first? How the Zionist lobby rabidly spouted accusations of Antisemitism against Mamdani?

            If Harris/Biden,who declared themselves loyal Zionists had won, these campaigns would have hit even stronger.

            It is the fact that people understood the genocidial status quo of the party has to end, that gave Mamdani the momentum.

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              The Democrats support Fascist commiting genocide in Palestine.

              Luckily, you threw your support behind the fascists who want the Zionists to commit even more genocide in Palestine, creating glorious martyrs for some vaguely leftist cause in the US that never seems to actually rear its head!

              This is definitely not martyrdom politics though!

              Any number of dead Palestinians, after all, is worth you feeling smug showing the shitlibs what for.

              If Harris/Biden,who declared themselves loyal Zionists had won, these campaigns would have hit even stronger.

              It is the fact that people understood the genocidial status quo of the party has to end, that gave Mamdani the momentum.

              lmao

              Yes, that’s it. The mayor of New York was elected on the strength of his foreign policy positions.

              Utter insanity.