Intel is in really serious trouble. At the rate they are falling I wouldn’t be surprised if they go belly up in 5 years.
Losing Intel would be very bad for a lot of reasons and I sincerity hope they can pull though. I think part of the problem is short term thinking from the board instead of long term planning and spending.
I run all AMD but this is a sad trend for everyone. Intel has been very good to linux over the years and AMD has a lot of catching up to do to have the same kind of influence in linux.
that’s from 6 years ago
It’s possible the situation has changed to a degree where AMD overtook Intel in the intervening years, but I think we would’ve seen some headlines if that was the case. I couldn’t find any reliable sources either way.
As someone who has no allegiance to either company, I really want Intel to turn things around and be a strong competitor again so that we can all benefit from their resources in the open source space.
If like to see that chart adjust for revenue and market share. I imagine it’d be more even.
Intel as a whole is unmaintained
How to destroy a company 101
Fuck Intel. AMD and ARM will run the table.
Sure maybe arm eventually takes off for most usage but in the mean time this is looking a lot like AMD is going to be a monopoly. If you think AMD will act any better than intel did when it still had to compete with AMD on the low end I have a bridge to sell you.
Corporate dysfunction is starting to hit AMD too.
It’s mostly on the GPU side for now. But bad decisions, drama and unforced errors (especially on the enterprise/prosumer GPU side) are beginning to worry me.
I agree, though I expect them to be slightly better. Mostly, I expect them to be tied to their commitment to open source software. If they betray that there will be a lot of noise. That’s better than Intel who never did open source software.
AMD doesn’t make there own hardware
Why?
Competition is good. AMD and ARM aren’t necessarily competitors since they make there own chips. The historical Intel competitor was companies like TSMC Samsung and Gobalfounderies but they aren’t even in the same league these days.
I so want ARM desktop PCs to become mainstream
It’s just a better ISA if you ask me. It’s more scalable, up and down, and more specializable. At least theoretically.
Great examples are the Fujitsu A64FX cores which went all in on SIMD performance, or Broadcomm’s 8-way SMT cores which were perfect for low IPC stuff like databases. Cloud servers could have massive arrays of small core CPUs, and some big cores already have a modular (but untapped) amounts of L3 for gaming.
It’s also easy to learn. I learned ARM Thumb in school! x86 would have been an utter pig.
Don’t worry, ai will maintain it…
mAIntAIn it?
wdym layoffs? intel people who maintain the drivers got fired? why can’t contributors just maintain it?
Who do you think the contributors are?
Companies pay people to work on Linux. That’s not to say that there aren’t any volunteer contributors but most of the work is paid.
I don’t know if you were joking or not… But in case you weren’t: the Intel guys typically have information about upcoming / unreleased products before the details are out in the open. Yes, the drivers can be maintained by the community when the information is available… But, day one driver support won’t be there (since they are generally developed in-house by Intel, and then pushed up to the kernel for release), and community development would (likely) take significantly longer…
And on the Enterprise customer side, there might be some hesitation about adopting newer Intel products that don’t have drivers officially supported by the company…at least in environments where Linux would be the (logical) choice… That might lead Enterprises to look at Windows instead of Linux.
Realistically lt will lead to enterprises using AMD instead, Windows just simply isn’t even an option for many enterprise uses (mainly server applications)
Intel is a dying company anyway. It’s getting parceled out for short term profit.
This isn’t going to affect Intel usage in the near future. Companies generally buy whatever is cheap and available. Dell, HP, etc rarely offer AMD as an option. And this is just ancillary Linux drivers, not a major make or break component.
This isn’t going to affect Intel usage in the near future.
True, it won’t significantly shift the downtrend Intel is experiencing but it’s one more reason why that downtrend exists. Corporations are already switching over to AMD’s EPYC for their server platforms and Intel is as entrenched as ever in the Laptop side of corporate business (which runs Windows anyway)
Companies generally buy whatever is cheap and available
Not quite true, they buy what makes them the most money for the cheapest price and due to that context Intel has been on the way out for a while now.
Dell, HP, etc rarely offer AMD as an option.
While there are a lot more systems available with an Intel chip saying they rarely offer AMD is stretching it a bit. Dell has listing for 51 Intel and 12 AMD laptop options, HP ~190 Intel and ~90 AMD, there is an imbalance there but if you are a corporate customer looking for something you will find an AMD alternative there. And in the server space Intel has been/is being gradually reduced to the second choice option with AMD EPYC being chosen for the premium products.
And this is just ancillary Linux drivers, not a major make or break component.
Might be ancillary to you and me but to a corporation this is a piece of liability they now would take on when buying new Intel CPUs for servers. Not by a lot but likely by enough to upsell them to the product using AMD instead.
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