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    • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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      17 days ago

      Liberals are not anti-capitalist Capitalism is on the right. Liberals are on the right. It really is that simple.

      The fundamental difference between the left and right is and has always been preservation of the current form of political economy (the right) vs progression to new form of political economy (the left). During the days of feudalism the right wanted to preserve feudalism and was represented by the landed aristocracy while the left was represented primarily by bourgeois revolutionaries pushing for a capitalist system. Today those bourgeois are on the right because they are trying to preserve the current system that sustains them while communists and anarchist are on the left because they recognize that this system does not work for them and are trying to build a new one. Liberals stand in the way of that and are therefore on the right

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        16 days ago

        Okay Vladimir.

        Look, it’s super-simple: Liberals want to tax the rich, Healthcare for all, Environmental protections, and publicly funded Education.

        You can say that’s impossible because of worker oppression or whatever but that’s simply not the case. It’s a matter of enough people voting for officeholders who will do the work to implement those things.

        Your socialist language is a pitfall and a barrier to practical, actual change.

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          16 days ago

          Liberals want to tax the rich, Healthcare for all, Environmental protections, and publicly funded Education.

          Then why do they keep electing people who do the opposite of that?

    • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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      17 days ago

      I mean liberals think they are until an issue that actually matters arises. Having enough decency to not think minorities should be killed off doesn’t make you a leftist automatically. Thinking the world shouldn’t be run as a Christian fascist autocracy doesn’t by itself make you a leftist. And you can’t just have those two insanely low bars in common with leftists and then be confused when they won’t side with you every election without question.