• A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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    17 days ago

    With the help of artificial intelligence, technology can dip into online conversations and immediately notify both school officials and law enforcement.

    Not sure what’s worse here: how the police overreacted or that the software immediately contacts law enforcement, without letting teachers (n.b.: they are the experts here, not the police) go through the positives first.

    But oh, that would mean having to pay somebody, at least some extra hours, in addition to the no doubt expensive software. JFC.

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      Not sure what’s worse here: how the police overreacted or that the software immediately contacts law enforcement, without letting teachers (n.b.: they are the professionals here, not the police) go through the positives first.

      The idea behind the policy is to stop school shootings. If there were a legitimate threat of violence, you would likely want the police to be notified as soon as possible. The issue here is that the authorities are letting a piece of half-ass code (Read: AI) decide what is a legitimate threat and, worse still, acting on that determination without question.

      They have literally sacrificed an essential freedom for some temporary, and probably illusory, security.

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            I didn’t realize the schools were using Run, Hide, Fight. That is the same policy for hospital staff in the event of an active shooter. Maddening.

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              Having worked in quite a few fields in the last 15 years or so, it’s the same active shooter training they give everyone. Even in stores that sell guns.

              I’ll let the reader decide how fucked up it is that there’s basically a countrywide accepted “standard response”

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              Why maddening? The active shooter response shouldn’t be all that different.

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                They’re not residents, you’re thinking of nursing homes. Roughly a third of hospital patients can walk without assistance, but yes. The rationale is staff doesn’t turn themselves into bullet sponges, because then who is left to remove the bullets once the shooter is dead? Either way, what do unarmed, untrained (to fight) people with the body armor equivalent of pajamas do to stop bullets?

                The patient room doors don’t lock. Sometimes those doors are made of glass. But herding the patients who can walk into the halls is likely an opportunity for an active shooter to hit more targets. As such, everyone hunkers down, and the police take care of it. In theory, per the training modules. Police sometimes run drills with the hospital, depending on locale and interagency dealings.

                Shutting all the fire doors is likely the only defense. Those nurses can be crafty on the fly, but there are limitations.

                I can’t imagine a secondary piece of this policy isn’t hospitals avoiding liability regarding workplace injury/death lawsuits.

                I just hadn’t known until now that in grasping for solutions schools found the standardized hospital policy and are running with it.

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        the policy is to stop school shootings

        You should try Europe once. It’s more fun than your 3rd world country.

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                  If you think I’m trying to say the US is better… by any measure LOL! -No. The US is a shithole.

                  My point is that if you take guns out of the equation they’ll just be replaced by something else.

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                    My point is that your comment makes it sound like gun control would solve nothing. That patently isn’t the case.

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                    Yes, but one of those things is capable of a lot more damage in a much shorter amount of time.

                    You’ll also have a hard time knifing people from a window with a wide vantage point.

                    Knives are dangerous, and evil people will be evil. But should we just hand out rocket launchers on the side of the road because knives exist?

                    It’s an absurd suggestion, obviously. So is “knives exist so guns are fine.”

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            The Asiaphobia that still goes on in the UK is absurd…

            I’ll still never get over the British Dub of Takeshi’s Castle referring to contestants as “Happy Clappy Jappy Chappies” and “Kamikaze Cousins”

            A shame, I really wanted to watch that version, it has Craig Charles doing the narrating, but… sorry Lister, seems you can’t help but be a smeghead around the Japanese.

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              “Daily murder” is a sneaky rhetorical maneuver, considering it’s something influenced more by raw population size, than by capita. It’s easy for there to be a “daily murder” in a country of 340,000,000 people, even when the overwhelmingly vast majority of people do not murder.

              Using “few” to trivialize/minimize the racism is no better.

              Shame on you for this disingenuity.

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                Even when we go per capita the US stays a shithole, it’s not like they were trying to actively misinform people.

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      I hate how fully leapfrogged the conversation about surveillance was. It’s so disgusting that it’s just assumed that all of your communications should be read by your teachers, parents, and school administration just because you’re a minor. Kids deserve privacy too.