• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 days ago

    From 16.70 in 1990 to 11.00 in 2020 in the US. But cute attempt at misrepresentation with the graph.

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      4 days ago

      Please show me a better and more accurate graph than the one i provided, or is the one i provided valid and accurate?

      All i presented it as was a graph of the US birth rate. Where is my misrepresentation? I said “here is a graph”. I would love to see your grapgh of the US birthrate that you believe is a better representation.

      My entire point is that a lot of places in this world right now is facing massive reductions in birth rates. This feels cherry picked to keep eyes away from western states’ same exact problems. Maybe capitalism is causing it? But the capitalist states cant have that kind of reflection. No, its the barbarians Chinese! Which is why I asked for a non-western source. Show me a source from a latin american or south american organization. An asian one. Literally anything non western please.

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          Buddy I asked for a better graph, but I literally linked the source of the graph.

          I don’t care how I look on the internet, I know i’m no fascist I don’t have to prove that to a bunch of 17 year old redditors who just learned about the word that i’m not a fascist 😂

          Listen I’m not trying to prove my point to you though so I don’t really care if you agree with me or not. I just wanted to non western sources and you provided it, so thanks for that though. I looked and didn’t see one. Again, don’t care at all if you agree with me. Not what I sought from this exchange

          Heres a hint: Fascists dont ask for a wide variety of non western news sources. Fascists are nationalists. Blind patriotism for any nation is a fucking cancer.

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            Seems like you are up for bat for China for no real reason.

            I’m not calling you a fascist or anything.

            Anyway, back to the topic. These effects were predicted and now we are seeing them.

            https://www.aljazeera.com/tag/uighur/

            Of course shit like this happens everywhere, there’s things like redlining and gynecology malpractice against indigenous women in a few countries. But, we’re not going to make a list and only talk about the “worst one” because that’s ridiculous and we wouldn’t be able to figure out which one is the worst one without talking about individual situations.

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          Right? What a stupid dumbo, graphs and sources are a clear sign of fascism. Watch out Excel users, we are coming for you next! The only bars you’ll see will be those in a cell.

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            3 days ago

            Using a graph to imply a drop by 80% when the drop is less than 35% is immensely misleading. Sorry that you see a graph and immediately assume whatever is implied is correct.

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              Well well well, looks like we got ourselves some kind of math talkin’, pie charts speakin’ gringo here.

              Did they tell you this is Lemmyland? This ain’t no place for percentage lingo amigo, only feelings and vibes.

              You best be movin’ on sourceboy or… well, let’s just say you’ll be sleepin’ with the tankies. Capisce?

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          4 days ago

          “Show me your sources”
          I don’t have any Fuck off fascist.”

          Wonderful. Centrists are the most annoying kind of human on this planet.

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              No, but someone else did. You can call me a fascist all you want, I consider myself a socialist and a leftist, but I bet you consider yourself a liberal. I get it, everything you don’t like is fascism, but I’m just skeptical of western news sources, as much as I am of chinese news sources. Whenever i see something anti chinese, I look for non western sources.

              Please learn to socialize better. This entire time i’ve just asked questions that literally supports everything I just said, and all you have done is acted offended and were defensive this entire time. Being asked questions isn’t fascism.

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                but I bet you consider yourself a liberal

                You’d bet wrong.

                I get it, everything you don’t like is fascism,

                No, playing apologist for genocide is fascist.

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                  No, playing apologist for genocide is fascist.

                  I’m not apologizing, I’m skeptical of western sources and am willing to accept evidence as long western in this case, western sources, in anti chinese cases, are hard for me to take at face value. Show me where I apologized, directly quoting me.

                  You are acting so strange. You just start accusing random people of fascism literally for being critical. It is a-okay to be critical. Someone else provided an Al-Jazeera article. That person was decent, because I did look for other articles but I looked it up using the original headline hoping that your source was original and others would have quoted from it. That was clearly not the case.

                  You, in the other hand, are just seething at any opportunity someone asks for non-westerm sources on a fucking meme, and take every opportunity to just call people fascist. Please learn some basic interaction skills or touch grass or something, humanity needs less people like you treating people like you do. Please be angry at the real fascists officials and politicians in offices throughout the world.