• dhork@lemmy.world
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    Pritzker said the Trump administration has begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois.

    So he’s not gonna try to nationalize Illinois’ Guard, he’s gonna use the Texas guard and deploy it to Illinois? That seems all sorts of wrong. It makes it more like an invading force…

    I wonder if Pritzker has the balls to deploy the Illinois National Guard to prevent them from entering?

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      Yeah, the Roman military used to do the same. Lots of places they conquered, they’d recruit soldiers. But they’d always deploy those units in other places. Turns out, it’s easier to brutalise people who aren’t your neighbours.

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      It’s a lot easier to shoot people who you don’t identify as your fellow churchgoers and friendly neighbors especially when they demonize blue cities to subhuman levels for at least the last 40 years.

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      That would be an actual act of rebellion and kick off an incredibly destructive war. He’s far more likely to encourage nonviolent resistance and to try and get guardsmen from Texas to defect

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        That would be an actual act of rebellion and kick off an incredibly destructive war.

        Let’s be very fucking clear about this: Pritzker deploying the Illinois national guard would be an entirely justified and very legal act of defense. Trump attacking the state using the Texas guard is the act of war.

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        Or maybe deploy Illinois guard 1:1 for every Texas Guard member they send. Put body cams on all of them, too, streaming live…

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      “No units have been activated and we do not have an order or preparatory command for any mission,” deputy director of public affairs for Illinois National Guard William Grove tells Axios.

      Saw this from 3 hours ago, looking like that’s not planned.

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        If we end up in a civil war, does that mean election is cancelled?
        This is the only reliable piece I can find online:

        In order for a federal election to be postponed, Congress would have to enact an amendment to the 1845 federal law and the president would have to sign it. The chances of that occurring are very slim since the House of Representatives is controlled by Democrats, the Senate by the Republicans and the Executive Branch also by a Republican. Even if Congress and the president agreed on postponing an election, a judicial challenge would be likely.

        From:

        https://bbklaw.com/resources/postponing-a-presidential-election-and-the-law

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          Postponing an election has never been done in the history of the Republic. Not even when we were at war. Not even when we were at war with ourselves…

          … So, when they do it, I expect the Supreme Court to uphold it with a 5-4 margin claiming that they had a personal seance with George Washington, who told them that this is what he had in mind all along

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      I wonder if Pritzker has the balls to deploy the Illinois National Guard to prevent them from entering?

      They’ll just help the texans.

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    But hey folk, remember to not criticize the us military and national guard for doing this. They are Just Following Orders and doing otherwise could lead to actual consequences for them!


    And on a more personal/selfish note: This… puts a bit of a wrench into my plans to visit some friends out in Chicago at the end of the month…

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      Letting them continue to do this with no resistance leads to actual consequences for all of us. I don’t know what the right answer here is, but it’s certainly not to sit idly by and watch it happen.

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      If you’re being sarcastic it isn’t clear. “Just following orders” is never an excuse. The Nazis tried to use that one.

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        I am trying to say this as politely as possible:

        if that wasn’t clearly sarcasm then you need to desperately work on your reading comprehension.

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          Or maybe, just maybe, everyone communicates differently and sarcasm is hard to portray in written communication. Go eat some and chill a minute. I’ve heard plenty of people say the exact same thing you just said and did not mean it as sarcasm, which makes it even harder to tell.

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            You could just as easily have said, “Hey, I’m having a hard time trying to determine if you’re being sarcastic, could you please clarify?” and then waited for response to decide to include the bit about Nazis in you reply.

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    The billionaire wants the poors to stay seated and let it happen…

    “It breaks my heart to report we have been told that ICE will try to disrupt community picnics and peaceful parades,” the governor said. “Let’s be clear, the terror and cruelty is the point.”

    Pritzker added that the Trump administration may use any pushback to immigration operations as pretext to deploying National Guard troops.

    “If someone flings a sandwich at an ICE agent, Trump will try and go on TV and declare an emergency,” he added, while urging Chicagoans to “not take the bait.”

    If the state government protected it’s citizens, then citizens wouldn’t have to do it themselves