It’s all conjecture at this point, but there are a few reasons why I think people will seek out synthetic companions once they’re more sophisticated and commonplace: Increasing social isolation and dissatisfaction with human relationships, the economic efficacy of LLM companions, and the effectiveness of algorithmic manipulation in social media and via LLM’s.
I think it’s going to be interesting to see the effects on society when it is possible for most people to be able to choose a sex-bot over dating another human being.
Also, I’m not new at this. I have been seeing incels say this line about “sex bots are going to ruin relationships for normies” for like, 20 years. It’s just a personal kink. Enjoy the fantasy but humans are always gonna human.
I don’t think “I’ve heard this prediction for years and it hasn’t come true yet” is much of a rebuttal, but again, this is all conjecture at this point.
Also, LLM companions are definitely not an incel-only phenomenon.
You didn’t start the convo this way, you said “most people want sex bots” and that deserves ALL the rebuttal that can be thrown at it because it’s stupid.
There is a very wide gulf between “it will be interesting to see how many people completely fuck their minds and emotional states with AI apps” and “most people are just waiting for sex-bots.”
The correlation between the two is instant gratification and a machine filling gaps where human behavior is generally deficient, in this case, emotional support and affection. If enough people are knowingly willing to engage with and create relationships with digital companions that they know aren’t real, such that a competitive market exists to create these products for them and it’s profitable, it’s really not a stretch to presume that they’ll do the same with a physical synthetic once it’s feasible.
I’ll say what I’ve said to incels and fetishists online about “sex bots” for decades now, which is… yes some people will want them, no it won’t be any time soon, no it won’t change society. People want to touch other people, even if the rates of sex and intimacy fall because of socio-economic factors, as is happening, the majority of people are not going to abandon their hardwiring and will still seek each other out human connection.
I’ve felt that way for a long time but the folks falling for ai partners are concerning me and making me wonder if I’m wrong. I know I much prefer my flesh and blood wife to anything an Ai could do, but I was once lonely and lost and felt unlovable, and I wonder if I would’ve made the choices that pushed me to grow enough to be romantically successful had these chatbots been around when I was a teenager.
Like, I know online friends and long distance relationships always left me lacking something, but would I have known that when my world was dark and small? The internet that taught me to hate corporations and to distrust them has become harder and harder for teenagers to find, so would a kid like me just believe this hype, would she trust a corporate llm?
Idk the times keep changing, and I’m just turning into an old lady. I don’t know if my lines are me being wise or just an adult who’s found her path.
It’s all conjecture at this point, but there are a few reasons why I think people will seek out synthetic companions once they’re more sophisticated and commonplace: Increasing social isolation and dissatisfaction with human relationships, the economic efficacy of LLM companions, and the effectiveness of algorithmic manipulation in social media and via LLM’s.
I think it’s going to be interesting to see the effects on society when it is possible for most people to be able to choose a sex-bot over dating another human being.
Also, I’m not new at this. I have been seeing incels say this line about “sex bots are going to ruin relationships for normies” for like, 20 years. It’s just a personal kink. Enjoy the fantasy but humans are always gonna human.
I don’t think “I’ve heard this prediction for years and it hasn’t come true yet” is much of a rebuttal, but again, this is all conjecture at this point.
Also, LLM companions are definitely not an incel-only phenomenon.
You didn’t start the convo this way, you said “most people want sex bots” and that deserves ALL the rebuttal that can be thrown at it because it’s stupid.
That’s true. I could have worded that better.
But it’s what I think, and I gave you my reasons. You can think it’s stupid and that’s okay.
Fair enough.
There is a very wide gulf between “it will be interesting to see how many people completely fuck their minds and emotional states with AI apps” and “most people are just waiting for sex-bots.”
The correlation between the two is instant gratification and a machine filling gaps where human behavior is generally deficient, in this case, emotional support and affection. If enough people are knowingly willing to engage with and create relationships with digital companions that they know aren’t real, such that a competitive market exists to create these products for them and it’s profitable, it’s really not a stretch to presume that they’ll do the same with a physical synthetic once it’s feasible.
I’ll say what I’ve said to incels and fetishists online about “sex bots” for decades now, which is… yes some people will want them, no it won’t be any time soon, no it won’t change society. People want to touch other people, even if the rates of sex and intimacy fall because of socio-economic factors, as is happening, the majority of people are not going to abandon their hardwiring and will still seek each other out human connection.
I’ve felt that way for a long time but the folks falling for ai partners are concerning me and making me wonder if I’m wrong. I know I much prefer my flesh and blood wife to anything an Ai could do, but I was once lonely and lost and felt unlovable, and I wonder if I would’ve made the choices that pushed me to grow enough to be romantically successful had these chatbots been around when I was a teenager.
Like, I know online friends and long distance relationships always left me lacking something, but would I have known that when my world was dark and small? The internet that taught me to hate corporations and to distrust them has become harder and harder for teenagers to find, so would a kid like me just believe this hype, would she trust a corporate llm?
Idk the times keep changing, and I’m just turning into an old lady. I don’t know if my lines are me being wise or just an adult who’s found her path.
Cool. Thank you for your opinion.
I hope you have a pleasant day.